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The Soccer Gap: What conservatives are missing.
National Review Online ^ | May 31, 2002 | Robert Ziegler

Posted on 05/31/2002 9:28:33 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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Yaaaaawn. . .
41 posted on 05/31/2002 10:12:02 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Clemenza
Yes, soccer is a beautiful game--- for the EUROFAGS who like watching men in short shorts!

How, yawn, clever.....don't football players play in tights?

42 posted on 05/31/2002 10:13:59 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: ohioman
Ever hear Rush's campaign called "Keep Our Own Kids Safe" (K.O.O.K.S)? Was a campaign to inform parents of the dangers associated with playing soccer. Was funny stuff.
43 posted on 05/31/2002 10:14:40 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Outlaw76
I'm with you.

I love soccer. I've played the game, coached it, and now, my children play it. (BTW: they love the game too.)

Is it boring? I don't think so. There is grace, teamwork, flashes of individual brilliance -- and more -- in every match at every level. You just gotta know what to look for.

What I don't understand is why some people (including those in this forum, apparently) think it has to be a competition about which sport is best. Do I think baseball is boring? Yes. Do I think golf is boring? Yes. Do I slam those who watch it? No.

Come on, FReepers. Let's see some toleration. After all, it's only a game.

44 posted on 05/31/2002 10:14:46 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155
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To: droberts
We conservatives GLORY in the fact that our nation is UNLIKE the rest of the godforsakened world. GOD BLESS UNILATERALISM IN FOREIGN POLICY AND CULTURE!
45 posted on 05/31/2002 10:15:19 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: FatherFig1o155
I played soccer in college and I think it is boring to watch. It's fun to play but dull to watch.
46 posted on 05/31/2002 10:18:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: xsysmgr
Like soccer, this article bacame dull quickly.

A fun game to play as a kid. That's it.

47 posted on 05/31/2002 10:19:34 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Physicist
Paul Maurice and Randy Ladouceur (Head and Asst coaches) are my friends neighbors. And they regularly attend his BBQs and other parties where I have met them. How I look forward to the day it is their turn to have The Cup. Hopefully my friend will have enough influence with them to allow me over to see it.
48 posted on 05/31/2002 10:19:34 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Dan from Michigan
GO WINGS!!!! You mean 'GO CHICKENWINGS'

BWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAAA

49 posted on 05/31/2002 10:20:08 AM PDT by Intimidator
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To: xsysmgr
In fact, American football in part began, as legend has it, when a game of "soccer" became too boring,

Wrong. Football was invented when American college boys, playing rugby, got tired of getting kicked in the face while down and losing their teeth. They ruled that play stopped when a player was down, which is sensible and which proves we're more civilized than the British. Then, to eliminate constant scrums, they instituted the down and distance system, and the rest is history. From that point, the forward pass has been the only other revolutionary departure.

Soccer is boring, but so are golf, baseball, auto racing, equestrian sports, and NBA regular season games. So I won't hold boring against it; some people seem to like tedium, and I don't have to watch.

When I put on my sports-purist hat, however, what does bother me about soccer is too many games (not to mention tournament games and championships) being decided by penalty kicks and/or those shootoffs (or whatever they're called) to break ties. It is as if basketball games routinely ended up tied and we settled on a freethrow shooting contest to decide the matter. A little more scoring would solve the problem.

I say this as a fan of defense. I loathe the designated hitter, the shot clock, the three point shot, etc. But soccer is overbalanced the other way. Probably all they would have to do is expand the goal a foot or two to turn boring 1-1 ties-with-shootouts into exciting 9-7 type games.

50 posted on 05/31/2002 10:20:26 AM PDT by sphinx
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Soccer is a gay sport. IT SUCKS. I am a southerner and the only sport I watch is HOCKEY. I'll give the yankees and Canadians credit, hockey rocks. Oh yeah, being a souterner I also have to watch NASCAR.

Hillarious. Someone who enjoys watching people drive around in a circle 500 times calls another sport gay....

I can understand someone being indifferent to a sport, but I don't understand the outright hostility that some show towards a sport.....

51 posted on 05/31/2002 10:20:28 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: keri
Soccer is the only game I can watch and stay interested in. (Basketball to a lesser degree.) I'd rather watch grass grow than waste time watching interminable football games, and baseball's interesting only when the Diamondbacks play;-)

Soccer really is a great game. It does require some smarts and creativity, though.

You bet. A helluva lot better than 12 minutes of the ball in play during a 3-4 hour pointyball borefest.

52 posted on 05/31/2002 10:21:12 AM PDT by Fithal the Wise
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To: xsysmgr
Most people I've already said what has been on my mind-- soccer is easy to play because you can do it with an empty field. Soccer is fun for most people to participate inbecause it doesn't require the players to be abnormally tall or heavy. More to the point, having a player with such physical attributes does not automatically skew the game one way or another.

However, soccer is not a popular spectator sport in the USA because, in my opinion, soccer has been "solved." The fact that the woman's world championship soccer game was decided on a penalty kick after a 0-0 tie proved to me that professional soccer teams have learned to be skilled enough, strong enough, and have enough endurance to prevent the other team from winning. They have simply figured everything out, and that's about it. Soccer has simply become to easy for the pros. Thus, I think the solution is simply to make the field smaller and force the game to be more fast paced. Hockey operates on the same principles as soccer, but it doesn't suffer from the same "slowness" stigma.

The lack of popularity among Americans when it comes to international play is simply that you can't really go to see any of the "away games" to root on the USA. It's easy for the British football hooligans to travel from country to country in Europe cheering on their country. In the USA, you're stuck hopping on a flight across the Atlantic if you want to do that.

53 posted on 05/31/2002 10:22:02 AM PDT by constans
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To: FatherFig1o155
Do I think baseball is boring? Yes. Do I think golf is boring? Yes. Do I slam those who watch it? No.

Do baseball and golf fans write editorials criticizing people who are not fans of the sport? No. Do they criticize and belittle people who dont like the sport? No. Do they question the mental capacity and "culture" of those that don't like the sports? No.

Do soccer fans do all of the above and more? Yes.

54 posted on 05/31/2002 10:22:35 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: xsysmgr
The author makes the point about requiring patience to appreciate the game and from personal experience I completely agree. Until this year watching soccer seemed about as exciting as watching paint dry, and coming from a huge Formula 1 fan that's quite a leap.

A very close friend is Dutch by birth (came to Canada 20 years ago) and I watched the recent European Cup matches with him at the local pub. The team from his hometown won in the end so he was a very motivated viewer. With the help of someone who could explain the game as it was being played I realized that soccer, like Formula 1 racing, can be very exciting if you pay attention to the nuances of on-field play, the strategies employed to set up breaks, substitutions etc. I agree that it doesn't posses the raw excitement of North American sports, and I can never imagine a game having the intensity of playoff hockey, but there's a lot there if you're willing to take the time to watch.

Only real issue I still have with the sport is ending a tied game with penalty kicks. I say make them play till they drop.

55 posted on 05/31/2002 10:22:55 AM PDT by mitchbert
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To: Clemenza
It's easy to talk smack on the Internet. I dare you to go to a pub in London or Glasgow on a November Saturday afternoon and say that.
56 posted on 05/31/2002 10:23:00 AM PDT by Hotspur
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To: xsysmgr
"Bobby, soccer was invented to give European ladies something to do while their men prepared meals." - Hank Hill
57 posted on 05/31/2002 10:23:22 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: xsysmgr
Soccer is the perfect "socialist" activity. There's a ton of action but almost no scoring. Since most games end up 0-0, you're essentially engaging in a "non-competitive" competition, which is what leftists love.

Any mediocrity can play and look good; thats why its so popular with housewives; their kids can play and run around and suck and not stand out.

It's simple, monotonous, beauracratic, mundane. Its socialistic.

58 posted on 05/31/2002 10:23:54 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: droberts
The U.S. invented football and baseball so it didn't have to compete with sports the rest of the world was playing. Much easier to be the world champion at sports only you and a couple of other countries are playing.

Come on. If the US didn't have the NFL,NBA,MLB,or NHL and soccer was the only game allowed, how long do you think it would take for us to field a world cup champion. Not long.
59 posted on 05/31/2002 10:24:50 AM PDT by rwfok
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To: xsysmgr
I enjoyed playing soccer, and still enjoy watching it. I like watching baseball, football, and hockey, but basketball bores me.
60 posted on 05/31/2002 10:25:27 AM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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