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A malaise brewing in Islam
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | May 31, 2002 | Ayhan Ozer

Posted on 05/31/2002 7:19:41 AM PDT by 2banana

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Finally, a close look at Islam by a Muslim (and it ain't pretty)
1 posted on 05/31/2002 7:19:41 AM PDT by 2banana
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A little humor break:

The Saudi Ambassador to the UN has just finished giving a speech, and walks out into the lobby where he meets President Bush. They shake hands, and as they walk, the Saudi says, "You know, I have one question about America."

President Bush says "Well, your Excellency, anything I can do to help you, I will do." The Saudi whispers, "My son watches this show Star Trek', and in it there are Russians, and Blacks, and Asians, but never any Arabs. He is very upset. He doesn't understand why there are never any Arabs in Star Trek."

President Bush laughs and leans toward the Saudi, and whispers back, "It's because it takes place in the future...."

2 posted on 05/31/2002 7:25:54 AM PDT by bloodmeridian
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To: 2banana
The first time I have ever seen an article from the Bucks County Courier Times posted on FR.

I started my career as a 10 year old paper boy delivering that rag on my dirt bike.

3 posted on 05/31/2002 7:32:58 AM PDT by bigeasy_70118
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To: 2banana
Islam's problems are our problems. Message to Muslims: Fix them quickly or we will fix them for you.
4 posted on 05/31/2002 7:35:53 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: 2banana
This guy really nails it. Kind of figures that this guy is a Turk.
5 posted on 05/31/2002 7:36:57 AM PDT by CaptRon
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Note to Ayhan Ozer: Make sure your life insurance premiums are paid up. Your family (provided they survive) will need the money after you meet an untimely and violent death from the hands of the mad mullahs.
6 posted on 05/31/2002 7:41:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: 2banana
Unless Islam frees itself from the yoke of the ignorant mullahs, it stands to lose its adherents around the world.

Unless individual islamic adherents free themselves from this unholy creation of satan, they deserve everything they've got coming.

7 posted on 05/31/2002 7:44:36 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: 2banana
"Free from ritual and trappings." What a larf.
8 posted on 05/31/2002 7:44:36 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: bloodmeridian
....and it must make their blood run cold, to hear such a truth told in jest....

America is the hammer sent by Allah to smash the apostasies of the false mullahs, and if this means the Arabs sink into obscurity or even extinction, that would be the judgment wrought. For they must have a serious genetic defect, if that belief in the rightness of their cause means they should not suffer retribution for their assault on the shining ideal of mankind that is the soul of the United States.

9 posted on 05/31/2002 7:45:00 AM PDT by alloysteel
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He doesn't go far enough. He must acknowledge the TRUTH: WHEREVER ISLAM GOES.....DEATH AND DESTRUCTION FOLLOW.
10 posted on 05/31/2002 7:45:10 AM PDT by marty60
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To: 2banana
Significantly,not an arab. Hope he stays safe. He needs all our goodwill.
11 posted on 05/31/2002 8:56:37 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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This person should find out where Salmon Rushdie is hiding and join him. It's the death penalty to anyone who dares to criticize in any way.
12 posted on 05/31/2002 9:00:08 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: bloodmeridian
funny bump
13 posted on 05/31/2002 9:03:21 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: FITZ
I thought Salmon was out of hiding now. He even made a cameo appearance in Bridget Jone's Diary last year.
14 posted on 05/31/2002 9:07:56 AM PDT by caa26
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To: 2banana
John Walker Lindh is key to understanding Islam. Here is an individual with a blank mind who goes shopping for a religon, becomes a Muslim, and then sets forth on a trek to find the heart of Islam. And what does he find when he gets there? Osama bin laden and a loaded Kalishnikov.
15 posted on 05/31/2002 9:13:02 AM PDT by rageaholic
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This person should find out where Salmon Rushdie is hiding and join him. It's the death penalty to anyone who dares to criticize in any way.

Islam sucks! Now come n' get me you b*stards!

16 posted on 05/31/2002 9:15:52 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: alloysteel
"America is the hammer sent by Allah to smash the apostasies of the false mullahs..."

200 years from now, I want their children's children's children's children to cower and cringe in fear whenever they hear the sounds of jet engines overhead because their legends tell of fire from the sky.

I want them to hide in dark caves and holes in the earth, shivering with terror whenever they hear the roar of diesel engines because the tales of their ancestors talk about metal monsters crawling over the earth, spitting death and destruction.

I want their mothers to be able to admonish them with "If you don't behave, the Pale Destroyers will come for you", and that will be enough to reduce them to quivering obesience.

I want the annihilation to be so complete that their mythology will tell them of the day of judgment when the stern gods from across the sea .. the powerful 'Mericans .. destroyed their forefathers' wickedness.

17 posted on 05/31/2002 9:19:10 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: 2banana
So long as Muslims turn their backs to rational thinking, and blindly follow the literal prescriptions in the Quran for guidance in the 21st century, they are in for more perplexity and turmoil.

THere is a hierarchy of laws in religion, however people pick and choose without checking if what they pick respects the hierarchy. For example, Islam's forbiding of making pictures of God or people is always hypocriticaly broken in their anti-semitic articles and descriptions of God and Islam. The sheer popularity of idolatry in Islam is incredible.

When religion should have a calming influence, it has a dispiriting influence....

And of course, secular liberals too swarm in such hateful idolatry and descriptions. They claim religion should be defined as to support material feelings (calming effects? Opium of the people? Prozac?), while religion is a dissociation from the leverages that great powers could yield in complete despise or hatred of individuals considered more sinful.

To see muslims stepping on women's face by force and gregarious sexist ideology is just as bad as submitting people to feelings for other ends. It just does not free people from concrete leverages. What are these idiots liberals thinking? Muslims do repress women through such feelings. And liberals do repress people through feelings for "sinless" women or children (It's for the children! Anyone?)

Religion is service for God, feeding God back what He gave us. That is it. It is a personal duty, for if it were to be organised, who is to say that the entity ordering a form of feeding God would be less of a sinner than the congregant - implying the organiser would make the congregant sin? The bottom line is that in the end, it is a very personal responsibility. And though this charitable attitude or respect towards God implies charitable acts and acts of charitable proselytism, such business is very controvertial.

The final question of every devout person, IMHO, is how can I return the favor to God? Jews sacrificed sheeps, and, apparently, it was not enough, because through sheep sacrifice they held other things from God. They gave God the bad parts and the priests ate the good parts. Prayer and ideas are what was instituted that God needed. Instead of feeding on ideology and priestly charlatanism, people were requested to feed God ideology - as a child pleasantly making a drawing to his father or mother. Still today we are suffering from ideologues such as Mullahs, liberals, communists and whatever other idea consumer out there.

So quiet secret prayers, for God only, really becomes central, though prayers aloud do develop within the community prayer themes. In the end, humble prayers in the quiet of the night, for others, if not, for God only, without any after thought of wish to feed from God or anything, is the most effective prayer, again, IMHO, for I want not to make others sin either.

Then, last but not least, if we can feed God jurisdiction, then God can come amongst us. This is the last hurdle that we are not even reaching yet. The world right now is fighting over ideology, more so than over materials. It has not even reached the level goal of fighting over jurisdiction in order to give hope to God's jurisdiction and self-applied miracles to happen. That is, this is what I think, for I do not think there are more goals after this, but, who knows, we may become others.

18 posted on 05/31/2002 9:34:35 AM PDT by lavaroise
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I see that a couple of others have already mentioned this, but it seems that, among Muslims in their home countries, it's usually Turks who appear to be capable of really analyzing the nuts and bolts of religion and its relationship with the real world objectively. Most other Muslims are like dumb animals by comparison.
19 posted on 05/31/2002 9:43:50 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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bttt
20 posted on 05/31/2002 10:37:54 AM PDT by timestax
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