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Lawmakers Say Misstatements Cloud F.B.I. Chief's Credibility
New York Times ^ | 5/31/02 | PHILIP SHENON

Posted on 05/30/2002 10:23:36 PM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 05/30/2002 10:23:36 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks; okcsubmariner
Mueller's a goner.

He's a politician, not a leader. I'll be happy to dance at his going away party.

2 posted on 05/30/2002 10:29:38 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: kattracks
Lawmakers Say Misstatements Cloud F.B.I. Chief's Credibility

Yeah, the FBI's incredible string of screw-ups wouldn't have anything to do with it.

3 posted on 05/30/2002 10:29:46 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: kattracks
Ashcroft should never have brought Mueller into the government. He bought Mueller lock stock and barrel and now he has to live with it or fire the man as an incompetent boob at the least. Anyone that was liked by Clinton and Reno should never be taken on by Bush, another stupid move.
4 posted on 05/30/2002 10:39:29 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: *terrorWar;*Espionage_list

5 posted on 05/30/2002 10:40:03 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: kattracks; Fred Mertz
"The fact of the matter is when I made that statement, I wasn't aware of the Arizona E.C.," Mr. Mueller said Wednesday, using the initials for electronic communication.
And yet...

Scarborough, Rowan. "Intercepts Foretold of 'Big Attack.'" Washington Times, 22 Sep. 2001.
According to a senior administration official, "[t]he day before terrorists struck the United States, its intelligence agencies detected discussions between Osama bin Laden's lieutenants of an impending 'big attack,' ... The official said ... that the detection was not discovered until days after the Sept. 11 assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The time lapse is typical of intelligence analyses, in which computers sift through loads of that day's collection to find valuable material."
Seems like there was little human involvement. The computers seem to be doing all of the work. Keywords and such perhaps? But wait, they lack computers...

Warrick, Joby, Joe Stephens, Mary Pat Flaherty, and James V. Grimaldi. "FBI Agents Ill-Equipped to Predict Terror Acts." Washington Post, 23 Sep. 2001, A1.
"The attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center found the nation's chief domestic law enforcement agency ill-equipped and unprepared. An agency that must track terrorists who rely heavily on technology lacks computers that can quickly access the Internet. Boxes of evidence have piled up in previous terrorist plots, but the FBI has not had translators to decipher them. It lacks Arab agents who can penetrate terrorist cells and has too few veterans who see connections among foreign suspects and far-flung sites."
Oh...I see.

Oh, we dare not say he lied, we'll just say he made "misstatements".

I stand by all the misstatements. Dan Quayle
I was not lying. I said things that later on seemed to be untrue. Richard Nixon

6 posted on 05/31/2002 12:54:02 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Déjà vu!
7 posted on 05/31/2002 12:56:11 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: glorygirl
I think the FBI is getting a lot of complaints from people wondering about some strange things going on with their computers, as we have read on various threads.
Nothing wrong with the computers. They seem to be doing their job. (see above)
The programmers, well, that might be a different story.
The leadership, well, they just make "misstatements".

I wonder how many more "misstatements" will come back to haunt us them.

8 posted on 05/31/2002 1:01:15 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
I am watch Klayman on C-SPAN charging the FBI with abuse of agents I think.

Does that tie in here?

9 posted on 05/31/2002 1:03:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: philman_36
Oh, we dare not say he lied, we'll just say he made "misstatements". How long was this dolt a regular fbi thug before he became head thug? Do you know? He was probably part of the problem from the beginning, but just like the head thug at atf, incompetence reaps the reward. Blackbird.
10 posted on 05/31/2002 1:07:21 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Does that tie in here?
I've no idea at this time. I might offer an opinion after I see the program or read a transcript.
11 posted on 05/31/2002 1:26:15 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST
How long was this dolt a regular fbi thug before he became head thug? Do you know?
Easily found out, straight from the horse's mouth.
Robert S. Mueller, III
In part...On July 5, 2001 the President nominated Robert S. Mueller to be the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Recently, he served as the Acting Deputy Attorney General for the Department of Justice from January through May 2001. On October 7, 1999, Robert Mueller was confirmed by the Senate as the United States Attorney for the Northern District of California in San Francisco. Prior to joining the Northern District of California in 1998, Mr. Mueller was Chief of the Homicide Section of the United States Attorney's Office for the District of Colombia where he had served since 1995 as Senior Litigation Counsel in the Homicide Section until assuming the position as Chief in 1997.

In 1990, Mr. Mueller was named Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice by former President Bush and was responsible for developing and supervising the enforcement of federal criminal law. He supervised the Noriega and Gotti prosecutions, the Pan Am 103 investigation and helped develop the Justice Department's policies on corporate sentencing guidelines, computer crime investigations, and health care and money laundering prosecutions.

Prior to assuming the position of Assistant Attorney General, Mr. Mueller was an assistant to Attorney General Richard Thornburgh in the Department of Justice, and from 1986 to 1987 he served as United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts.

Mr. Mueller has held various positions as a prosecutor and supervisor and has also had experience in the private practice of law.

I think there are a few more things not mentioned too.
Robert S. Mueller, III was born August 7, 1944 in New York City, New York. He received a B.A. from Princeton University in 1966, an M.A. from New York University in 1972, and a J.D. from University of Virginia Law School in 1973. His employment history includes the following: 1967-1970, Lieutenant, United States Marine Corps; 1975-1980, Captain, United States Marine Corps Reserves; 1973-1976, Litigation Associate, Pillsbury, Madison, & Sutro; 1976-1982, Assistant United States Attorney, Civil Division, then Assistant United States Attorney, Criminal Division, then Chief, Special Prosecutions Unit, then Interim Chief, Criminal Division, Northern District of California United States Attorney's Office; 1982-1988, Chief, Criminal Division, then First Assistant United States Attorney, then United States Attorney, then Deputy United States Attorney, Massachusetts District United States Attorney's Office; 1988-1989, Litigation Partner, Hill & Barlow; 1989 to 1993, Assistant to the Attorney General for Criminal Matters, then Assistant to the Attorney General for the Criminal Division, Justice Department; 1993-1995, Senior Partner, Hale and Dorr; 1995-1998, Special Litigation Counsel, Homicide Section, then Chief, Homicide Section, District of Columbia United States Attorney's Office; 1998-present, United States Attorney, Northern District of California; and January, 2001-present; on detail as Acting Deputy Attorney General, Justice Department.

Probably some more out there as to specific cases. I'll look into it some if you would like.

12 posted on 05/31/2002 1:42:43 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST
One case in particular not mentioned in the first article comes to mind...The prosecution of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI).
13 posted on 05/31/2002 1:45:21 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST
A less than cheerful depiction...New FBI Head Is Old Bush Cover-Up Man
In part...Under Thornburgh's patronage, Mueller quickly advanced to the post of assistant attorney general in charge of the Justice Department's criminal division where he directed the Noriega, BCCI and Pan Am Flight 103 cases. Thornburgh has said that he relied upon Mueller to handle some of what Thornburgh described as the department's most "delicate" tasks.

It should be noted, for the record, that Mueller was quite vocal in criticizing members of Congress who had dared to raise questions about the propriety of actions by the FBI and federal marshals in the siege at Ruby Ridge where the wife, son and family dog of Randy Weaver were ruthlessly gunned down.

The record also shows that Mueller has a certain disregard for the constitutional rights of persons accused of crimes. As U.S. attorney in San Francisco, Mueller actively urged prosecutors to push defendants who pleaded guilty in plea bargains to waive their so-called "Brady Rights" which require government lawyers to divulge any evidence that could indicate a defendant's innocence. In short, Mueller is very much one inclined toward the "police-state" frame of mind.

That Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) joined in the chorus of cheerleaders hailing Mueller's selection, is no surprise. Hatch-who never met a federal law enforcement official he didn't absolutely love-has been a tried-and-true friend of every federal law enforcement appointee, including Janet Reno, ever since he was implicated in the BCCI scandal-ostensibly "investigated" by Mueller himself-but escaped indictment.

14 posted on 05/31/2002 1:52:21 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST
And glowing praise...
Mueller Nominated to Be FBI Director
In part...When Mueller was a prosecutor in Washington, D.C., he worked with his friend, Eric Holder, who later became deputy attorney general under Janet Reno.
Holder named Mueller the interim U.S. attorney, and the Republican prosecutor quickly won over the state's two Democratic senators. In doing so, Mueller cemented his reputation as a top prosecutor and established ties on both sides of the political aisle.

Snip...Holder also said there's more to Mueller than his stoic image might suggest, which he saw while the two were working in one of the most violent districts in the country.
"I saw him interact with poor African- Americans here in D.C. I saw a side of him I don't think many people see ... a sensitive side."

Snip...Respect for Mueller is found throughout the defense community. Solo Jerrold Ladar credits the office's record-keeping with aiding in the discovery that a defendant in a high-profile case had suffered from a previously unknown medical condition.
In 1998, the office brought 672 cases and took 32 to trial. Last year, Mueller's second year at the helm, those numbers doubled to 1,253 and 59, respectively.
The amount of civil and criminal penalties recovered increased from $7 million to $208 million, due in large part to a $170 million health-care fraud settlement with Beverly Enterprises Inc.

15 posted on 05/31/2002 1:59:51 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Kinda like I figured. He fit's right in with the current crowd. Thanks for the info. Blackbird.
16 posted on 05/31/2002 2:06:48 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST
Regarding the computer systems the agency has the way back machine gives us...
The Rise Of The FBI and The Fall Of The Republic
The FBI's counterterrorism center, which became fully operational last July, is the physical expression of this change -- a kind of Grand Central Station for domestic and international intelligence-gathering. "I think this is the wave of the future," Ellis says of his particular mission, which involves a partnership between the Defense Department and the FBI. Acknowledging the FBI's preeminent role in such partnerships, he adds, "The one federal agency I guarantee has one person in every community is, in almost every case, the bureau." Preeminent, yes, but far from alone: Analysts from no fewer than 16 agencies -- including the CIA and the National Security Agency, which conducts global electronic eavesdropping -- also work at the counterterrorism center. These analysts, including one with access to the CIA's vast foreign networks, man special computers that can reach back into their home agencies' intelligence databases and pull up information for the FBI.

And we're to believe that all of these "analysts" can't coordinate the information coming in to D.C.

I'm still not buying it.

17 posted on 05/31/2002 2:23:06 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST
It's CNN, but bear with me...
FBI opens high-tech crisis center
In part...The computers at desks throughout the center and the 5-by-15-foot video screens on the walls of almost all of the 35 rooms can display not only U.S. television broadcasts but also TV channels from other countries.
Yet we're told that these computers don't have Internet access. Riiiight!
Snip...The FBI's new National Infrastructure Protection Center, tasked to prevent and respond to attacks on government or private computer systems that keep America running, will have three representatives on each of the 10-member watch teams that staff the center at all times.
Isn't that the Internet? How can that be done when, "An agency that must track terrorists who rely heavily on technology lacks computers that can quickly access the Internet.?

Also present around the clock: a representative of the National Security Agency's Cryptologic Security Group to provide information from the government's worldwide electronic eavesdropping.
Isn't that special Mr. and Mrs. America. 24/7 coverage!

Each work station can receive data from three sets of phone and computer links, with the information divided into three categories: unclassified, secret and top-secret.

And the sheep went Baaaa and the cows went Moooo...
I'm done!

18 posted on 05/31/2002 2:33:45 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Lot of great source work there Phil, thanks a ton. Blackbird.
19 posted on 05/31/2002 2:48:10 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST
Lot of great source work there...
That isn't even the start of it. I could go on for quite some time filling this thread up with links.

What's the use? Blatantly false statements abound and they will be believed because nobody knows and they don't want to know. Look up the Presidential Directives (PPD/PRD) and find out what is really going on.
I get frustrated and depressed blowing these things apart.

Agent: FBI Could Have Prevented 9-11
Wright listed several major failures of the FBI. They included lack of high-quality managers and modern computer technology, failure to modernize investigative objectives to deal with the new terrorist threat, too many investigative violations, incompetent managers not held accountable for their mistakes, an internal affairs unit that was "bias[ed] and unfair” to whistle-blowers and others, criminal conflicts that have "contributed to the preventable deaths of American citizens," and FBI duplication of the investigative jurisdictions of other federal law enforcement agencies such as the DEA and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Cry real big crocodile tears for us...
It's all about what is lacking, never what is in abundance! Millions and billions of dollars in gadgetry and there just isn't enough. Evidence from just one article has already been shown what is available, and that in high-tech abundance.
I feel I know what is lacking and it isn't what is quoted above.

20 posted on 05/31/2002 3:19:54 AM PDT by philman_36
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