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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
RE #66

I mean specifically the military and the LEO agencies.I have come to the conclusion, based on extensive and colorfull experience, that any large organisation is going to consist of the same types of people. The quality of their work products will fluctuate based on the groups perception, real or not, of managements respect for the end product.If multiple layers of segmented management, both mid level and higher, is openly engaged in power positioning as opposed to results, the end product will always suffer. The nature of the "product" does not matter

Look around your company or workplace, or just to use a universal US example, look at your grocery store.Unless you are disabled, you require little direct contact with the majority of the employees there, except the check out counter.But you can always tell if the management is good or not based on the attitudes of the employees, the cleanliness of the store, and the number, large or small, of outdated foods on the shelves or "mistakes" in pricing.

While the long playing show by media and politicians of attacking LEOs failures is entertaining,,no attempt to report their successes will be shown to the public at large.It is the nature of the job. Having endured many years of that , I will tell you that making the LEOs the pariah is an idiotic reaction to the current situation.

I believe cumulative lethal errors were made by numerous individuals, and I also believe a thorough housecleaning is in order.I do not believe much will be accomplished by the CYA mode our government is displaying according to the "media".While it makes for lurid headlines, it does little to solve the problems we, as a nation face. While I may not personally know an individual in one of the LEOs,I do know the environment they are forced to work in is the same as a badly run corporation. I also believe the majority of them do the best they can, under the circumstances.They are us.We did not import LEO members from another planet.As a military veteran of an ostriscized specialty, I wish the civilian LEOs had the opportunity to shed their dead weight in the manner I was prepared to implement, if necessary.

73 posted on 05/31/2002 5:28:04 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
"I believe cumulative lethal errors were made by numerous individuals, and I also believe a thorough housecleaning is in order." Agreed. And I believe the errors were made mostly by the higher ups in the bureaucracy.
74 posted on 05/31/2002 7:53:37 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: sarasmom
To do that housecleaning will require private sector intervention and the realization that the way the HR is designed for such a body is badly flawed.They make mistakes because they get the wrong types of people doing work ill suited for their skills, and it should be apparent that to do such pattern recognition and interpretation is handled by such a small subset of the general populace that the FBI and CIA have to change their recruitment standards.

This type of counter-terrorism work has to be handled by independent thinking, intuitive types that make connections to events that few can do.The gov't is not the best place to find such people, though some may exist in certain areas, the private sector and even parts of academia could yield better results.Find better people, leave them alone to brainstorm and give them the resources they need, and there is a good chance that there will be fewer cock- ups in the future.Most cannot connect dots on their own, and its past time that those in charge of intelligence recognize such flaws in how the human resources factor fails the FBI and CIA in one of its primary functions.

75 posted on 05/31/2002 8:19:04 PM PDT by habs4ever
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