[ArGee]

The scientific definition of reality relies on natural causes, and so far has proven extremely useful and should therefore be defended against religious types who try to change it to fit their beliefs. The answer "because God wanted it" or "because God did it" has no place whatsoever in a science curriculum. And this is independent of whether the actual statement is true or false.

I agree as far as the scientific proof goes. But I have no problem with a Scientist saying, "because G-d did it," out of his personal faith. I don't think Einstein proved himself an idiot when he said, "G-d does not play dice with the universe."

But science should never feel wrong about saying, "We don't know. If you want to believe it was G-d, you go right ahead."

Shalom.

[OBAFGKM]

I don't think Einstein proved himself an idiot when he said, "G-d does not play dice with the universe."

(I'm slowly working my way to the top of the thread.) Einstein was making a statement of faith concerning apparent inconsistency between the theory of relativity and the newly advanced theory of the quantum. If both are true, then causality isn't, and that wasn't consistent with Einstein's notion of God. He was sure that there had to be an error, and spent the rest of his life looking for it, unsuccessfully.

Physicists have come to do without the causality .Richard Feinman once quipped, "Not only does God play dice with the Universe, sometimes he throws them where they can't be seen." (He also said, "Nobody understands quantum theory. You just get used to it.")