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*Announcing the launch of Alan Keyes' RenewAmerica project*
RenewAmerica e-mail message ^ | 5/29/02

Posted on 05/29/2002 6:43:29 PM PDT by RenewAmerica.tv

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To: RedBloodedAmerican
All the time...how about you?
121 posted on 05/30/2002 7:55:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Oh, only when I have a nice healthy bowl of ice cream on my lap. You like ice cream, bub?
122 posted on 05/30/2002 7:56:46 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
LOL...I love ice cream...

Ever been to LeMars, Iowa, the ice cream capital of the world?

They have the best Rocky Road around...

;-)

123 posted on 05/30/2002 8:01:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Just got done with a bowl of Key Lime Pie ice cream myself :)
124 posted on 05/30/2002 8:04:20 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
mmmmm...I'd rather have plain ol Key Lime Pie, though.. ;-)
125 posted on 05/30/2002 8:09:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; EternalVigilance
Okay, I get it now. Which one of you two are going to run against Daschle?
126 posted on 05/30/2002 8:09:48 PM PDT by ned
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To: ned
Not me! He is way too big for me!
127 posted on 05/30/2002 8:10:54 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Well, I want to give an immediate endorsement to whoever is gonna run against Daschle in 2004. I've been hearing that he may dodge the whole election.
128 posted on 05/30/2002 8:15:04 PM PDT by ned
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To: ned
PSSSTTT!!!

Here's a clue: Check their profile pages.

129 posted on 05/30/2002 8:15:06 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: ned
Maybe he and Hillary will share a ticket. Or he and Alan, or he and Larry, or he and...well someone!
130 posted on 05/30/2002 8:16:52 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Amelia; EternalVigilance; RedBloodedAmerican
I did. EternalVigilance is from Iowa. Where is RedBloodedAmerican from?
131 posted on 05/30/2002 8:17:55 PM PDT by ned
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To: RenewAmerica.tv
BTW, Alan is a "conscription" leader--a real rarity. He is genuinely motivated by a love of America and of its founding vision, and is not driven by calculating ambition.

I have given up on the Keye's threads because of his supporters. However; your statement above is the most intellectually insulting piece of sophistry I have seen about Alan Keyes, even by the most rabid Keyester.

132 posted on 05/30/2002 8:17:58 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ned;RedBloodedAmerican; EternalVigilance
Which one of you two are going to run against Daschle?

What??? A Freeper is running against Daschle? Seriously???? Who? Is this a joke?

133 posted on 05/30/2002 8:18:42 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: ned
I give up. Whoever's running against Daschle (and I know you're out there somewhere) - I support you!
134 posted on 05/30/2002 8:20:10 PM PDT by ned
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To: ned
Who is running? Where did you learn of it?
135 posted on 05/30/2002 8:21:34 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: ned
Florida!
136 posted on 05/30/2002 8:32:34 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Texasforever
Why beat around the Bush? I call it flat out B.S.!
137 posted on 05/30/2002 8:33:43 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Captainpaintball
>>>We don’t have much time left.<<<<

Disagree. We have all the time in the world...
whether we spend it as a free people or in bondage is the question.

It would be far too presumptious of us to think that we behold the end of history.
We don't deserve that honor.

138 posted on 05/30/2002 9:39:22 PM PDT by Avg_Joe_6-pack_Couch_Potatoe
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To: floriduh voter
Alan Keyes bump
139 posted on 05/30/2002 9:46:08 PM PDT by mafree
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To: RenewAmerica.tv; The All Seeing Eye; Eternal Vigilance; Symix; Joe Brower
I repeat what I said earlier--a movement without a leader has no power to change anything. That is one of the clearest lessons of history.

Who, then, would you list as THE leader of the Revolution?

I think more important than the leader is the IDEA...or the IDEAL...being aimed for. If the leader is the all-important thing, without him or her the movement falls apart. If the IDEA or GOAL is the most important thing, then as long as all members have the same goal and are working toward it, the movement continues.

If Renew[ing] America depends upon Alan Keyes, then if (heaven forbid) he were killed in a plane crash tomorrow, our country is doomed. If it depends solely on returning to the ideas and ideals of our Founding Fathers, THOSE are the basis of the movement, not who says what about them.

My other point, you will call "bashing", but before you dismiss it as such, please hear me out. The other problem with Alan Keyes as leader is that he offends many people - note Joe Brower's post above in which he says "Some people think he's overbearing, condescending, whatever. Well grow a skin." You can see in the early posts on this thread that even Symix - and Dr. Keyes has no greater fan than Symix! - thought on the first viewing that Dr. Keyes was rude to his guest on the show last night.

Symix later changed his mind & said his first impression was incorrect, but you know from reading these threads that others have gotten the same impression - and for some, the first impression is the one they carry forever.

I know that no one person can appeal to everyone, but beginning a movement with someone who impresses many as rude, condescending, or arrogant is dooming that movement to failure.

Better, IMHO, to tie the movement to IDEAS, or to SEVERAL leaders, than to one man.

140 posted on 05/30/2002 9:49:00 PM PDT by Amelia
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