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Another FBI Agent Blows the Whistle on 9-11
NewsMax.com ^ | Wednesday, May 29, 2002 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 05/29/2002 6:42:02 PM PDT by mdittmar

FBI Special Agent Robert G. Wright Jr. will hold a news conference Thursday in Washington to reveal FBI negligence and obstruction of counterterrorism investigations targeting Hamas and al-Qaeda.

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, said its co-counsel David Schippers would join Wright at the press conference.

"Special Agent Wright, of the FBI's Chicago Division, is the only agent in the history of the FBI to have used the civil forfeiture laws to seize over $1.4 million dollars in Hamas terrorist money in connection with a criminal investigation of terrorist money laundering operations here in the United States," Judicial Watch said.

Minneapolis FBI agent Coleen Rowley has corroborated Wright's experiences dealing with FBI headquarters and senior management, "who consistently delayed, down-played and soft-peddled the investigative efforts of counterterrorism agents in the field," the organization said.

Stay tuned.


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To: sinkspur
I disagree. Schippers was one of the honorable people in the Clinton impeachment saga. His book does put a lot of blame on the Senate Republicans which they justly deserve. Schippers has been trying to bring to light the Arab involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing. I think they were involved and I am beginning to believe they might have been involved in the flight 800 downing. I consider Schippers an honorable and courageous man. However, I think Klayman is not much more than an ambulance chaser.
121 posted on 05/29/2002 10:58:10 PM PDT by Constitutional_Republican
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To: Yelshin
LOL -- Laughing out loud
122 posted on 05/29/2002 11:00:41 PM PDT by Constitutional_Republican
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To: sinkspur
"If listening to Limbaugh is like drinking Kool-Aid, listening to Jones is swilling nuclear waste."

Yeah but Jones has been right more often than any other talk show. His video has made an impact. Something that party people (DEMS AND REPUBS) can't stand. He pulls no punches and documents everything.

I guess that most people don't want to think that OUR government would do such a thing like ignore warnings of an attack.

123 posted on 05/29/2002 11:15:10 PM PDT by Radioactive
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To: DallasMike
comments made about Alex Jones

"I've managed to tune into him a couple of times while traveling. I hate to call the man a kook, but he sure does a good imitation of one."

Yeah lets just call anyone with an opinion that is

1. DOCUMENTED

2. Factual

3. Unpopular with the powers that be

a kook just like what Limbaugh does when someone disagrees with him. Lets just label everyone a KOOK.

Calling someone a name in responce to an argument or comments is typical of people who cannot back up their opinions with fact. Limbaugh does that well. You do not!

124 posted on 05/29/2002 11:26:50 PM PDT by Radioactive
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To: Texasforever
"Weaver had 18 months to answer the warrant and Koresh had 54 days to do the same."

And if you used about 3-4 hours reading something other than government spin on those two topics you might know the truth.

125 posted on 05/30/2002 2:40:36 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Texasforever
No one knew about it because there was a virtual news blackout on the entire event. Bo Gritz went up there because he knew Weaver and was trying to save the lives of Randy, Kevin and Randy's three daughters. If Gritz hadn't publicized the whole event Weaver's cabin was going to be torched just like Waco. Sure it's a lot of money but I've met and talked with Weaver personally and I guarantee you that he'd return it all if he could get his son and wife back.
126 posted on 05/30/2002 7:47:13 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit
"Magaw is the worst kind of government bureaucrat. He defends fascistic government abuses -- but the trains still don't run on time. Fascism is at least supposed to keep the citizenry safe.

As the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Magaw famously justified an unprovoked government assault against Randy Weaver and his family, culminating in the murder of Weaver's wife. In testimony before a Senate committee investigating the raid at Ruby Ridge, Magaw stubbornly refused to admit the ATF had done anything wrong whatsoever.

Indeed, he even refused to acknowledge a jury verdict finding that the government had entrapped Weaver. Of the jury's verdict, Magaw said: "Do you believe Randy Weaver -- or do you believe the federal agents who have sworn to tell the truth and are carrying out a career in this government?"

Guess who put this together.

127 posted on 05/30/2002 8:15:50 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: sinkspur
I would have the FBI do law enforcement. You know, solve and prevent crime in the US. And I would make integrity the foundation of the agency. The stink of this agency has left it's mark on so many events in our country lately. And the stink of corruption goes all the way to the top. The rot is treasonous....just look at the Hansen(sp?) story. How many more are there like him. How much does the FBI coverup, lose, fabricate, lie??? What would I do? I would clean house! I would return truth and integrity. I would bring back respect from my employers....the American people! J. Edgar
128 posted on 05/30/2002 8:32:00 AM PDT by hove
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To: rdavis84
Deny, obfuscate, deflect, lie unflinchingly, it's obvious to me that many of these bureaucrats have no soul. What kind of gov't. training delivers up such wretched results?
129 posted on 05/30/2002 8:39:34 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit
Here's the rest of that article ----- Conservative Writers
130 posted on 05/30/2002 8:47:53 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Pushi
After reading the replies of some of the Texans on this thread...
Presumed Texans. Anyone can put up anything on their homepage. Don't judge us all by the few.
I don't agree with those "Texans" that you're talking about either. I find them repulsive myself.
There are a couple more about too. They tend to be from Houston.
One of the main reasons I don't attend any HAT functions.
131 posted on 05/30/2002 8:52:26 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Texasforever
94: Weaver stated, "Yeah and when asked if he would do anything differently on a documentary I watched yesterday, he said. "I probably would not have sold the guns but other than that NO".

The jury found that Weaver wouldn't have sold the gun had not the BATF "entrapped" him.

Ergo, the large award....

132 posted on 05/30/2002 9:18:13 AM PDT by Jethro Tull
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To: Texasforever
You think that horuchi did not know his sights were trained on Vicki when he squeezed the trigger and blew a huge hole into her head?

Then why did Horuchi have a 'trophy' picture taken of him holding Vicki's dress?

He did not know even after he dropped her - that is a huge stretch.

133 posted on 05/30/2002 11:48:44 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Triple
Man I just love it when some of these know-nothings who like to shoot off their mouths get hit with factual info. Their silence says it all as they slither away from whence they came.
134 posted on 05/30/2002 1:36:06 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: american spirit
They tend to slither back when you aren't watching.
Ever vigilant.
135 posted on 05/30/2002 3:55:31 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Radioactive
Yeah lets just call anyone with an opinion that is

1. DOCUMENTED

2. Factual

3. Unpopular with the powers that be

a kook just like what Limbaugh does when someone disagrees with him. Lets just label everyone a KOOK.

Er, okay. Let's just take a look at what ol' Alex has to say on his website. Here he describes how "military helicopters landed in school yards as part of an obvious desensitization and indoctrination of our youth."

Most rational people would think that the military visiting schools would be a good recruitment and public relations technique. After all, most little boys and many little girls get a kick out of seeing things like helicopters and jets. When Freddie the Firefighting Wombat pays a visit to 3rd-grade classes, do you believe that it's a New World Order plot to indoctrinate the little kiddies into playing with fire?

The next "article" down, Jones proclaims that "MARTIAL LAW IS HERE" in central Texas. That would be news to a whole bunch of my friends and relatives. As proof, he shows photos of military men who tried to hide their faces from the lens of Jones' camera man. Never mind that central Texas is home to Fort Hood, the largest army base in the country. From my childhood in the early 60s until now, I don't think that I've ever been down I-35 between Waco and Austin without seeing the military.

Jones then goes on to write about secret global networks, the Rothschild Bank being part of the New World Order, and the ever-present Bilderbergs.

On this page, Jones writes how the "Global Elite", former presidents Reagan and Bush, and current President George W. Bush have all participated in secret Satanic ceremonies at an "elitist cult compound" called the Bohemian Club. At the ceremonies, the secret elite worship a 50-foot tall owl made of stone. Really, check out the page because I'm not making this up. I never did find the skeleton in the photo that he blabs about and the "demon" is nothing more than a cartoonish ladybug emblazoned with the word "PI" and using a handbroom and dustpan. That's strange, I'll admit, but if you've ever been around graphic artists, you would know that they frequently try to insert their own strange little personal logos into the work, frequently at almost microscopic size.

Plus, Jones likes to TYPE IN ALL CAPS or at least To Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word. That's a dead giveaway that there's a short-circuit somewhere in the ol' noodle.

Alex Jones is a certified screaming loony. Accept it.


136 posted on 05/30/2002 6:50:18 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: mdittmar
Why FBI Agents Don't Record Interviews
[quote]When asked about the backwardness of the FBI in not having its agents tape record their interviews, Dr. Whitehurst said this is because they don't want to be tied down to what the person being interviewed actually says. They want to be able to embroider the interview or trim it. He said he had recommended equipping all the agents with eyeglasses that have a built-in video camera that will record both what is said and what the agent can see. He said that was rejected. It would deprive the agents of their freedom to misreport what the witnesses had said. [end quote] Source - Accuracy In Media
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The Unprofessional and Unreliable FBI "302" Interview
The purpose of interviews during criminal or civil investigations is to objectively determine everything the person interviewed knows - and doesn't know - about a matter being investigated and properly document it in the best possible way to avoid any later dispute about exactly what was said by the person interviewed and the person(s) conducting the interview. The best way to do that is to conduct the inteview at the earliest possible time and record the interview in its entirety. The most effective way to do it is to use 2 or more recorders, keeping in mind that opposing counsel has the right to listen to the tape, have it examined for possible tape tampering - and to a transcript in the event a duplicate original recording isn't made for that purpose during the interview. An added benefit to duplicate recordings arises when one of the tapes becomes damaged, as sometimes happens. Keep in mind that the investigator's job is to expertly gather evidence - and preserve it.

The FBI 302 Form Interview Procedure
Routinely, two agents conduct the interview, usually one asking the questions while the other takes notes on a pocket pad and sometime later dictates a summary of the interview which dictation is sometime later transcribed on a 302 form which is eventually returned to the agent for review and signature (or any corrections, additions or deletions he might consider appropriate). It's not evidence of what the agents or the person interviewed actually said. At best, it's the agent's recollection of what was said. At worst, it's an invitation to skullduggery and - keeping in mind the information is Intelligence - potentially horrendous peril for all Americans as the obvious Intelligence breakdown prior to the events of 11 September 2001 dramatized.

The 302 procedure guarantees that even the interviewing agents' Supervisors have no way of knowing what was actually said - and not said - by any of those present, much less whether the interview was thorough and complete.</font size>

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/Transcript_8_23_3.htm
[excerpt][quote] " . . . . . the FBI did not make any transcripts or recordings of these interviews. Documents are written in the words of the FBI agents who prepared them. Some of the documents contain incomplete information or are vaguely worded. In other words, the documents may not always say what the witness said." [end quote]

http://www.law.emory.edu/4circuit/june96/945902.p.html
[excerpt][quote] "Thus, when a government agent interviews a witness and takes contemporaneous notes of the witness' responses, the notes do not become the witness' statement- - despite the agent's best efforts to be accurate- - if the agent "does not read back, or the witness does not read, what the [agent] has written." Goldberg v. United States, 425 U.S. 94, 110- 11 n.19 (1976). And a government agent's interview notes that "merely select portions, albeit accurately, from a lengthy oral recital" do not satisfy the Jencks Act's requirement of a "substantially verbatim recital." Palermo, 360 U.S. at 352. [end quote]

In short, the FBI 302 form interview summaries are not "witness reports" or "witness statements" or "witness declarations" and don't document anything said during the interviews.

Why does the FBI cling to the 302 interview procedure?
To tilt the playing field in the prosecutions' favor in the event of an arrest by avoiding the documentation of any suggestive "leading" questions by the agents and any exculpatory statements that might be made by those being interviewed or even the agents themselves.

Trial lawyers dealing with cases involving FBI 302 form interview summaries instead of recorded interviews and the transcripts of those recorded interviews routinely raise hell about it not just those reasons but also for the the obvious reason that they can neither hear for themselves everything both the witness and the interviewer actually said nor read everything both the witness and the interviewer actually said.

The press is well aware of the problem, as the following documents, but have done a poor job of bringing it to the attention of the public.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/speeches/1998/jan1598.htm
[quote]
QUESTION: After the Nichols trial, there was some concern on the part of some of the jurors there about the fact -- and this comes up from time to time -- that the FBI does not transcribe interviews, it does this form 302. And every once in a while somebody says, you know, that it is not the best evidence, 302's are summaries of what something thinks somebody said. And people, every once in a while, look at whether the FBI should change that.

Is that anything that is being looked at? During the time you have been Attorney General, has anyone ever suggested that the FBI ought to change that practice?

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: I have heard it on occasions and have discussed it with Director Freeh. I cannot discuss it in the context of this particular case.

QUESTION: But as a general matter, is that something that is pretty much a dead letter now?

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: As always, we continue to review each issues, the circumstances of the issue in the context it arises, to see what is appropriate. But, again, with respect to this matter, in this case, I cannot discuss it.

QUESTION: Yes, but as a general matter, does it strike you as a good idea, the way the FBI does the 302's? Do you see any need to change that?

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: I think, each case, you have got to look at it on a case-by-case basis, and I think that is what the Bureau does.

QUESTION: Are you saying that they sometimes use a tape recorder?

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: Again, I think you have to look at the specific examples of each case and make the best judgment of what is right in that case.

QUESTION: (Off microphone) -- some have suggested the FBI should no longer use this form 302, and should go to a transcription of interviews. Would that be a good idea, in your view?

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: Again, you are going to have to look at the whole matter: each case, when you interview, who you interview, what the circumstances are.

QUESTION: But the FBI has a policy that applies to all cases all the time, that they do not tape record their interviews.

ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO: I will be happy to check with Director Freeh and clarify anything that I have said. But, again, I cannot comment on this particular case. And I think you have got to look at the larger picture. [end quote]
Janet Reno obviously chose to engage in wiggleworming when publicly confronted with the indefensible FBI 302 form interview procedure.

Los Angeles Times 7-31-2001 Hearings Open on Mueller
Senate: Bush's pick to head the FBI tells panel his "highest priority" is to restore public's trust in the battle-weary bureau. [excerpt] " . . . . . he said he would consider expanded tape-recording of FBI interviews to give its investigations greater credibility--another idea the bureau has resisted through the years." [end excerpt]

FBI Crime Lab Misconduct

137 posted on 05/31/2002 12:24:03 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: american spirit
Their silence says it all as they slither away from whence they came.

Actually, what it says it they more than likely have a REAL life that doesn't involve sitting here day and night answering your questions.

138 posted on 06/01/2002 5:12:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Well judging from the number of times I've seen your postings it's obvious you don't much of a real life either.
139 posted on 06/02/2002 8:01:00 AM PDT by american spirit
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