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To: Poohbah; Mikey
Here's how you redirect a portion of the $70 billion the illegals are leeching from the U.S. towards 'the wall'.

Enforce the laws we have on the books against employing illegals.

Kick illegal aliens off the welfare and other social services rolls.

Give all illegal aliens 90 days to sell everything, they don't want to take with them, and return to their home countries. Confiscate every last nickel from any illegal alien apprehended in the country after that.

Once they're on the other side of the wall and there's no jobs or social welfare programs for them here, they'll stay out.

Yes, we'll still need the wall to prevent the trade in human slaves, stolen cars, drugs and terrorist and Mexican military border incursions, etc..

As far as the mines go, the technology is now available to make landmines do whatever we want them to do. The mines we use now could take advantage of the new technology that we've developed since the Vietnam War, 30-years-ago.

Those that were against 'Operation Desert Storm' used all kinds of Vietnam 'war stories' and flawed analogies that didn't apply anymore.

Your Vietnam landmine analogies aren't valid anymore, either.

184 posted on 06/12/2002 8:00:55 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Here's how you redirect a portion of the $70 billion the illegals are leeching from the U.S. towards 'the wall'.

OK, and I'll be happy to tell you why it won't work.

Enforce the laws we have on the books against employing illegals.

And replicate the enormously successful war on drugs.

Kick illegal aliens off the welfare and other social services rolls.

First, you have to show that they're illegal aliens. Good luck. Half of the problem is that we don't know who is and isn't a legal aid recipient, because our documentation requirements are a bad joke.

Give all illegal aliens 90 days to sell everything, they don't want to take with them, and return to their home countries. Confiscate every last nickel from any illegal alien apprehended in the country after that.

Ah, replicate another enormously successful war on drugs strategy.

Once they're on the other side of the wall and there's no jobs or social welfare programs for them here, they'll stay out.

And come the jubilee, all God's chillun will have shoes.

In other words, all you are assuming is that several miracles occur in quick succession, that Joe Citizen will gladly embrace even more government surveillance of his day-to-day economic activities, and that your proposals will survive judicial review (they probably won't).

Yes, we'll still need the wall to prevent the trade in human slaves, stolen cars, drugs and terrorist and Mexican military border incursions, etc..

I wasn't aware that stolen cars crossed into Mexico at other than border checkpoints.

As far as the mines go, the technology is now available to make landmines do whatever we want them to do.

Be specific. What capabilities do you imagine these landmines having? How much will they cost?

The mines we use now could take advantage of the new technology that we've developed since the Vietnam War, 30-years-ago.

The land mines we use now are the same land mines we used in Vietnam. Building a new generation of landmines will take about 20 years from initial concept to full operational capability, if recent defense acquisition trends continue. Since the US military's ground warfare doctrine emphasizes offensive operations as the best defense, mines are just about dead LAST in priority.

Those that were against 'Operation Desert Storm' used all kinds of Vietnam 'war stories' and flawed analogies that didn't apply anymore.

Those who favor simple solutions to complex problems use all kinds of flawed analogies. Yours is one of them.

Your Vietnam landmine analogies aren't valid anymore, either.

Be specific. What amazing capabilities do you envision modern landmines having? How would they have these capabilities? What's the price tag? What kinds of operational issues appear?

Land mines are effective because they are inexpensive. They are inexpensive because they are simple. Adding complexity to land mines increases their per-unit cost enormously.

185 posted on 06/12/2002 8:51:36 AM PDT by Poohbah
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