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To: cornelis, beckett, betty boop, Kevin Curry
Why is there something rather than nothing?

Yes. And why is there infinite and sublime order and not chaos?

Science was begun in the Chistian West as an exploration of and an attempt to explain God's material nature. But none of the early explorers other than Darwin would have thought, I would suggest, to go so far as to presume or conclude that materiality explains itself.

And despite "His" immense consistency, where is it written that God must follow our rules, the rules of science? Even science should admit into its realm that for which there is evidence. At the individual level and on rare occasion, for example, people do know the future and no amount of scientific rule-making can overcome such evidence. This is one example among many. Further, quantum mechanics itself points toward immateriality. Science over the past century or so has developed the bad habit of denying or ignoring that which it cannot explain, thus attempting to constrain reality to fit its definitions. By what logic should or would God conform to our man-made rules?

Well, for what it's worth and with a bow from a "redneck intellectual" to the true intellectuals among us.

446 posted on 06/02/2002 6:51:56 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Chistian = Christian.
447 posted on 06/02/2002 6:56:24 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Yes. And why is there infinite and sublime order and not chaos?

More than mere order. There is immaterial information coupled to matter. It is not matter--it cannot be seen, felt, or heard in its own right--but expressing itself through its material substrate it can yield all of these things to sensible life forms. At its most complex form on this planet is it capable of willfully planning and reordering other matter into a Boeing 767 or a Tschaikovsky symphony. It can even learn from its mistakes. It must have present at the beginning.

461 posted on 06/02/2002 12:56:58 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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