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To: VadeRetro
Is this what he was talking about?

I became acutely aware that what we think is reasoning is very often rationalization. When you speak of rationality, there are two very distinct components. One is logical reasoning, which is about going from premises to conclusions, conclusions that should be as good as your premises. Thus, logic will get you into insanity if you’ve got the wrong premises.

The other component of rationality is having the right premises. How do you get them and how do you determine that they are right? Not by logical reasoning, surely, because then you would be reasoning from other premises in order to justify them. There is an instinct, or revelation, or whatever you want to call it, that underlies your thinking, and the only interesting problem in philosophy is how you get that.

After figuring that out, it was the death of rationalism, as far as I was concerned. The problem with rationalism is that it isn’t rational. It fails to give sufficient importance to the development of the choice of the right premises; it tries to justify them by circular reasoning. Once I was alert to that distinction, I was able to critique the things that previously I felt I had to take for granted.


253 posted on 05/30/2002 7:47:01 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
I can't tell. I agree less with that snippet of text, although it's well written.

(As I recall, however, the writer went on to mention that you can test your rational model against your experience of the world. Omission of this point looks like a glaring deficiency of the argument of the section you posted.)

255 posted on 05/30/2002 7:55:03 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: cornelis
Possibly you were responding to this part of my post.

If it had been addressed to me and were still in my reply queue, I might be tempted to repost it and get myself suspended or banned for reposting deleted text.

Take care. ;)

259 posted on 05/30/2002 8:08:10 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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