That's the thing I don't get..."E" people are willing to go along with the "big bang" which demands that there is "something" beyond our universe, a precursor if you will, but refuse to acknowlege anything but the "material." How?
None of us can prove or show what preceded the Big Bang. Some scientists believe that it all came from nothing (but if so, how?). But it's just as possible that there is an intelligent and powerful force that brought the big bang into existence. Interestingly, the universe, as it was created, was at an enormously low entropy (very, very highly ordered). The odds of it being that way, based on all possible configurations, are something like 1 in 10 to the 133 power (a number higher than that measuring all the atoms in the universe). Thus we are either extraordinarily lucky. Or something else was in play...