[MJM59]

From what I understand, the 109 was idling, and therefore moving at a crawl. And, unless you have been on the ocean at night, you just don't really know how dark, darkness can truly be. Having spent my fair share of time at sea, I could see that the 109 was pretty much in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The story of the PT 109 crew's survival is truly one of courage and bravery in times of war. Something that our present and previous president cannot relate to. BTW, I am referring to "W's" military record and not his presidency. What Bush is going through now is not a fair comparison. There were no advisors on the 109.

[Lee'sGhost]

"Something that our present and previous president cannot relate to. "

What! Where the hell did that come from? I can understand the contrast to the draft dodging America hater, but Bush? I respect the fact the JFK actually served, and that he survived such an ordeal is amazing. But even Klintoon could have sat in boat and gotten run over by another ship -- that doesn't take a lot of talent. The survival part pretty much comes instinctually after that -- something Klintoon applied in his politically life every day after Monica Lewinsky was revealed. And I'll not fault W one bit for serving in the National Guard.

[pasquale]

courage and bravery in times of war. Something that our present and previous president cannot relate to.

Oh puhleeze.

I'm sure W said to himself "I could get hurt if I went to Vietnam. I'd better do something nice and safe. I know, I'll become a fighter pilot, like my dad. That's safe."

Please don't put W in the same boat as his predecessor.