1 posted on
05/28/2002 7:48:36 PM PDT by
Dallas
To: Dallas
This is looking worse by the minute. It seems likely to me it will turn nuclear because Pakistan will never admit its complicity in the crisis and will not change its behavior. The question is how many nukes do the belligerents have? I've read estimates of upwards of 100. But it could be twice . . . or ten times . . . that number. No one knows but India and Pakistan.
To: Dallas
Meanwhile, India and Pakistan's new representatives at the United Nations on Tuesday publicly reaffirmed their countries' commitment to peace. Vijay Nambiar, of India, and Munir Akran, his Pakistani counterpart, both swore to uphold the U.N. Charter -- whose main principle is preserving international peace.
Oh, like that really means something.
3 posted on
05/28/2002 7:57:06 PM PDT by
Dog Gone
To: Dallas
U.S. military was worried that the dispute could interfere with its search for al-Qaida fighters Well, if the Indians slide a few nukes into the area where the Al Quesies and Tallibunnies are holed up, there will be little point in searching for them in that area anymore.
8 posted on
05/28/2002 8:15:50 PM PDT by
El Gato
To: Dallas
For Reference:
Location |
Size |
Count |
Hiroshima |
12 kiloton |
1 |
Nagasaki |
10 kiloton |
1 |
India |
15-60 kilotons each |
20-60 |
Pakistan |
15-25 kilotons each |
10-30 |
Russia |
3-50 megatons each |
2,000+ |
Fallout effects from Indi-Paki nuke exchange
And
Map-a-Blast
Film Footage of Actual Blasts From a
PBS site:
Operation Cue (500kb) ![Building](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/building.jpg) Beginning in 1953 the Federal Civil Defense Adminstration, working with the Atomic Energy Commission, set up an atomic test program to investigate the effects of nuclear weapons on typical American homes and their furnishings. |
Operation Castle (300kb) ![Castle](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/castle.jpg) Operation Castle, a series of thermonuclear tests, was conducted in the Marshall Islands in the spring of 1954. The 15 megaton Bravo detonation was over 1,000 times larger than Hiroshima. |
Layer Cake Design (500kb) ![Layer Cake](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/cake.jpg) In Andrei Sakharov's Layer Cake design, several layers of light and heavy elements were alternated. High explosives surrounding the Layer Cake would be used to implode and ignite the atomic bomb at the center of the device. The atomic explosion would then set off a fusion reaction in the deuterium. |
Operation Cue (300kb) ![House](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/house.jpg) Each home was equipped with refrigerators, typical appliances, the kinds of food one would eat, from baby food to adult food, and were exposed to the blast. |
Operation Castle (100kb) ![Cloud](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/cloud.jpg) Operation Castle yielded more fallout than any of the other U.S. thermonuclear tests, contaminating military personnel and civilians on nearby islands. |
Camp Desert Rock (900kb) ![Fox Hole](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/bomb/sfeature/images/fox_hole.jpg) Camp Desert Rock, Nevada - The U.S. military began using smaller blasts to learn how to fight a nuclear war. On April 22, 1952 approximately 2,000 Army personnel conducted maneuvers beneath the mushroom cloud of the 31-kiloton Charlie nuclear detonation. |
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To: Dallas
Kasmir is seen as a Jihad
The dilemma for Gen Musharraf is that many of his army officers [in spite of large-scale purges] are still deeply sympathetic to the militants and the Kashmir cause ... The [Pakistan] army believes in the moral justice and diplomatic necessity of the Kashmir war... Khalid Khawaja, a retired ISI officer, [spoke] in chilling tones: "We have done the worst possible thing. We have been responsible for the miseries of our brothers and sisters because we didn't believe in God but we believed in Bush and Blair." ... The fight in Kashmir [is seen] as a legitimate jihad.
Musharraf is Ignored
It is clear Musharraf's promises are not being kept. Most of the militants [previously jailed] have been released without charge, among them the heads of groups listed as terrorist organisations by Britain and the US. Pakistan has allowed militants backed by its own intelligence agency to continue their war in Kashmir even though it threatens to plunge India and Pakistan into a devastating conflict.
Terrorists Still Active
Pakistani militants are still openly raising funds and training young fighters to cross into Kashmir to fight the Indian army. The ISI's Kashmir cell issues money and directions to militant groups. "Every jihadi has links with ISI," said a military source.
Terrorists Seek War, Nukes
Al Qaeda is moving its most battle-hardened warriors into Kashmir to provoke war with India in the hope of obtaining Pakistan's nuclear weapons in the ensuing bedlam.
The Paki Military may be Nuts
I told Aman that I was disturbed by the ease with which Pakistanis talk of nuclear war with India. Aman [formerly chief of Paki military intelligence in Sind Province] shook his head. "No," he said matter-of-factly. "This should happen. We should use the bomb. ... We should fire at them and take out a few of their cities - Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta," he said. "They should fire back and take Karachi and Lahore. Kill off a hundred or two hundred million people. They should fire at us and it would all be over. ... We should teach them a lesson. It would teach all of us a lesson. There is no future here...My children have no future. None of the children of Pakistan have a future. We are surrounded by nothing but war and suffering. Millions should die away."
To: Dallas
Let 'em get it on. Think what an effect that would have on the world's overpopulation problem.
22 posted on
05/28/2002 9:09:12 PM PDT by
Pushi
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