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India, Pakistan Turn Up War Talk
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Posted on 05/28/2002 7:48:36 PM PDT by Dallas

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To: AM2000
Jesus said that in the last days, there would be lots and lots of earthquakes.
21 posted on 05/28/2002 9:04:39 PM PDT by 3catsanadog
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To: Dallas
Let 'em get it on. Think what an effect that would have on the world's overpopulation problem.
22 posted on 05/28/2002 9:09:12 PM PDT by Pushi
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To: AM2000
See your Nostradamus and he's playing a HAARP!

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope: antennas send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radio wave beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto Earth and penetrate everything-living and dead.

HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other US military documents put it more clearly: HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes". Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Troms¿, Norway; and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities:

"...at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'run away' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively inexpensive defence shield and the university can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.

The military says the HAARP system could:

* give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986);

* replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology;

* be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system;

* provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military's own communications systems working;

* provide a wide-area Earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements;

* be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area;

* be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete.

The above abilities seem like a good idea to all who believe in sound national defence and to those concerned about cost-cutting. However, the possible uses which the HAARP records do not explain, and which can only be found in US Air Force, Army, Navy and other federal agency records, are alarming. Moreover, effects from the reckless use of these power levels in our natural shield-the ionosphere-could be cataclysmic, according to some scientists.

Tinfoil magnifies HAARP

23 posted on 05/28/2002 9:29:11 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: El Gato
Talking worst case. If they blow up the desert, then it wouoldn't be so disruptive.
24 posted on 05/28/2002 10:25:23 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: PsyOp
It ain't a real quake until it gets over 5 on the scale. Anything lower than that is just trucks passin' on the inter-state

Quit spoiling my fun with realistic talk! ;-)

25 posted on 05/29/2002 5:30:57 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Fabozz
Thanks for the clear-minded analysis.
26 posted on 05/29/2002 5:45:06 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: Dog Gone
Quit spoiling my fun with realistic talk! ;-)

Sorry, but I can't help it. Remember the 7.0 Santa Cruz Quake that did all the damage in the SF Bay area a few years back, and interupted the World Series at Candlestick Park? The epicenter was 3 miles from where I lived then. For two weeks we had 5.0 to 5.5 after-shocks rumble through about every 10 minutes (and hundreds of smaller ones almost continuously).

You want scary? Try being under a house checking a foundation when a 5.5 happens....

27 posted on 05/29/2002 11:42:44 AM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
I was standing in the shower one afternoon when a 6.1 struck with an epicenter about 8 miles away. The water suddenly stopped, the lights flickered, and I was on my butt before I had a clue what was happening.

I have a very healthy respect for earthquakes. You were either very brave or very crazy to be under the house!

28 posted on 05/29/2002 11:49:27 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
You were either very brave or very crazy to be under the house!

A bit of both. Had no choice since we had to know if it was safe to stay. Didn't go back, though, until several weeks had passed and the constant after-shocks had subsided.

It really pissed off Santa Cruz residents that the media played up the damage in and around SF, but ignored Santa Cruz where the devastation was more widespread but not as easily accessible or glamorous (not as many people died, but far more were rendered homeless).

29 posted on 05/29/2002 12:21:30 PM PDT by PsyOp
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