If I may share a personal experience during a Freep when a 'mature' female LIBERAL cozied up to me to ask why I supported Bush. (Note: I'm also a 'mature' female.) I told her I was sick of sending my money to Washington only to get lost in some black abyss. She looked me straight in the eye and said I can't argue with that, and walked away. Of course she was of the age to be a taxpayer vs. some young, college-age rebellious type.