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To: borntodiefree
>>>You need to reread your constitution.

You need to get a new act. Preferably, one that offers some political education.

>>>All of the so called federal laws are legitamite, but only apply to DC and its other possessions such as ports, forts, magazines, etc...

Say what? Exactly where in the Constitution does it say that?

The Constitution says, We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect union... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Untied States of America. That union was originally 13 states, today, it's 50 states.

>>>All Federal laws regulating the individual are a fraud.

That simply isn't true and has no basis in reality.

>>>... I do will not go back to the pro-comprimise to get what you want Republican party.

Then you and your libertarian philosophy can wither on the vine. Compromise is at the heart of the American political system. The Founding Fathers clearly understood that. Your libertarian absolutism, has no place in the functioning political system of our constitutional republic.

>>>Again the case you stated and the SCOTUS decision was generally wrong.

Only in your opinion. It happens to be the law of the land.

>>>You and yours have no right to tell me what I can or can not do to my body. That is between me and God. Yes, I think it is dumb, so what.

That's not entirely true. The will of the people, through their elected representatives, have every right to dictate the terms of an orderly and law abiding society. Someone's personal relationship with their God, should be of no concern to anyone else, but that relationship exists in the context of society and doesn't give you absolute rights, of any kind. In the last sentence, you seem to contradict yourself. You're a very confused individual.

>>>The greatest point of Libertarians is not anarchy, but free thinking.

Libertarians are people who uphold the principles of absolute and unrestricted liberty and that's a sure fire formula, for chaos and anarchy. The laws of the land protect law abiding folks from criminals, misfits and malcontents.

If you have anything more to say, keep away from the convoluted rhetoric.

77 posted on 05/28/2002 5:24:48 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Libertarians are people who uphold the principles of absolute and unrestricted liberty and that's a sure fire formula, for chaos and anarchy. The laws of the land protect law abiding folks from criminals, misfits and malcontents.

I hope you can reconsider that statement. Most libertarians, and Dr. Pilon and Mr. Crane in particular simply want a return to the common and natural law the country was founded on- which has been ignored for the last 60 years. The role of government is to protect the individual from criminals and malcontents- the real issue is whether that role extends to a forced social security scheme, redistribution of wealth, regulating business transactions, schools, and private behavior. Republicans and Democrats apparently believe it does.

80 posted on 05/28/2002 6:39:49 PM PDT by Fast 1975
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To: Reagan Man
Below is the powers of congress. Maybe you could also refere to the 10th item in the Bill of Rights.

I pray that you don't change the meaning of the Holy Scriptures to fit the times, like you seem to change the meaning of the Constitution as times change.

US Constitution Article I

Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
81 posted on 05/28/2002 6:48:54 PM PDT by borntodiefree
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