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To: ELS
Dominus vobiscum!

I'm with you 100% that the Traditional Mass needs to be restored.

Plus, the present scandal demonstrates just how out of touch the bishops are regarding the wishes of the laity. We request the Latin Mass and are ignored; we request the bishops remove pedophile priests and are ignored.

But the Traditional Mass is not in and of itself a solution to the current crisis, as the scandal surrounding the Society of St. John makes clear.

9 posted on 05/26/2002 7:24:20 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
I read about the St. John nightmare on a traditional Catholic mailing list.

The solution is to return to orthodoxy. Many bishops let the heretics run wild sowing confusion and choose to discipline the orthodox, traditional Catholics (usually for pointing, directly or indirectly, out how unorthodox the bishops are). It's about time they start disciplining the heretics, instead.

11 posted on 05/26/2002 7:30:14 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Dajjal
But the Traditional Mass is not in and of itself a solution to the current crisis

It's more of a problem of teaching actual Catholicism, and requiring that such be taught. True Catholic beliefs can exist well with either modern or traditional masses. But it seems absurd not to offer traditional masses when so many want them and experience God more deeply because of them.

20 posted on 05/26/2002 8:17:43 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Dajjal
Plus, the present scandal demonstrates just how out of touch the bishops are regarding the wishes of the laity. We request the Latin Mass and are ignored;

As I recall it -- and I was old enough to know what was going on -- no one except the liberals chattering about "listen to people" ever wanted the Mass changed. Most people I knew or knew of were dragged kicking and screaming; some stopped going to Mass "until the real Mass comes back."

72 posted on 05/27/2002 9:48:35 AM PDT by maryz
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