[Harrison Bergeron]

"Note that the many "father's rights" groups are not interested in the legal presumption of Joint Physical Custody as much as they are about loosening social/legal requirements on men to support and otherwise be involved in their child's right.

You mean "legal requirements" like these?

"The result is a system that traces newly hired employees, shifts the burden of proof to the accused, and throws fathers in jail for losing their jobs."

And you blame anybody who dares try to remedy this? Of course your choice of words, "many of the 'father's rights' groups" is a red herring in itself, ignoring that there are groups airing their grievances strictly w/r/t custody and visitation issues. You don't kill the Hydra by only lopping off one head.

[Lorianne]

Don't take my word for it then, look at the agenda of many of the so called "father's rights" and men's rights organizations. The focus is not as much rectifying problems in custody law as it is in evading responsibility altogether. In addition there is a strong bias towards coercing abortion or abandonment in OOW parenting situations. The focus again is on evading responsibility altogether rather than more reasonable sharing of responsibiity.

[Lorianne]

"The result is a system that traces newly hired employees, shifts the burden of proof to the accused, and throws fathers in jail for losing their jobs."

And you blame anybody who dares try to remedy this?

No. Show me where I said social/legal problems or inequities should not be addressed. I said they should not be addressed by reducing the presumption of obligation of parents to kids. Big difference.

Of course your choice of words, "many of the 'father's rights' groups" is a red herring in itself, ignoring that there are groups airing their grievances strictly w/r/t custody and visitation issues.

Some groups are focused on remedying inequites present currently in custody and visitation issues. But I know of no so-called "fathers rights" group which supports/promotes judicial presumption of joint physical custody. Why is that I wonder?