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To: Common Tator
"THE GREATEST GAINS THE LEFT HAS EVER MADE WAS WHEN THE STRATEGIES YOU RECOMMEND WERE ADOPTED AND FOLLOWED BY THE RIGHT. The left has only been able to make huge advances when the right (the old guard) is in control of the Republican party. The only time the left wins big gains is when your guys are running the opposition to the Democrats. The only time the left has ever lost is when your heroes were not running the Republican party."

SHEEESH, C.T., what a selective memory you have. Reagan was not the Milquetoast Moderate that you seem to revere and the GOP accomplished a good deal (i.e. Income Tax Rate reduction from 70% to 28%, winning the Cold War, decreasing the Power of the Unions, etc.) until the middle-of-the-roaders diluted the message and cut the Conservatives down at the knees. Your seeming willingness to accept Power as a an end-all instead of a means to an end in self-defeating when the compromises required to attain that Power include the enactment of the opposition's agenda. Fact is, the Federal Government has grown TOO BIG, TOO COSTLY, TOO POWERFUL, and TOO UNACCOUNTABLE, and any so-called "compromises" that further the Agenda of those favoring an omnipotent Central Bureaucracy do increasing damage to America by moving it further from the Constitutional basis that allowed us to become such a great Nation in such a short period of time!! It's really not just about DemonRAT vs. Republican and Left vs. Right...the ultimate battle is about Right vs. Wrong, and the Collectivist Solutions favored by the DemonRAT Left (and too many spineless GOPers) have been proven to be Wrong wherever and whenever they have been implemented.

"Did you ever notice that when the far right is in control of the Republican party all they do is suffer defeats?"

Once again, nice selective memory...your so-called "Far Right" was in control of the Party in 1980 when Reagan beat back the Moderate wing supporting your apparent hero, Jerry Ford, and the result was GOP winning big in '80 and '84 and '88, before the Milquetoast Moderates destroyed the Reagan Revolution. Then, in '94, the Gingrich-led "Far Right" ran on a historic right-leaning platform and took over Congress against all odds, before the Moderate wing started gravitating back to the RAT Agenda, once again stalling any true progress. In '00, we finally took over both the Legislative and Executive Branches until--once again--your Moderate hero Jumpin' Jim Jeffords torpedoed the GOP again. The GOP wins when it stands on Principle, not when it attempts to be the "Me-too" Party for Big Guv'ment Expansionism.

"In 1960 and the 1990's the moderate strategy prevailed to roll back some of the lefts advances. It to some extent accomplished our shared goals. Your strategy has always failed. Mine has worked sometimes."

"Your" strategy always has the GOP on the defensive, attempting to minimize the extent of the growth of the Federal Leviathan, but "my" strategy most certainly worked in 1980--and I would argue '94 despite your claim that the Contract with America was a Moderate win--because the GOP set out a Conservative agenda that differentiated it from the RAT Party, then defended it shamelessly because we KNEW we were Right!! Doing so again would produce similar results, IMHO.

"People who hold your views are exaclty like the left. The Socialists honestly believe that Socialism and total government control will make a better society for all the people. Evidence is never important. Beliefs are the only important things to both the far left and the far right."

That is where you are totally wrong, Mr. Tator, the Left and Right are diametric opposites because there is solid evidence now that Collectivism ALWAYS fails when contrasted with decentralized decison-making...ALWAYS!! The evidence is there and it is our charge to make that case to the Sheeple and win a mandate on the Principle of Less Central Bureaucracy and More Liberty and FReedom. Attempting to marginalize me and the so-called "Far Right" will get the GOP Moderates nowhere but back in the Minority.

"The arguments for Socialism sound so good to the left. The only problem is it fails to do what its boosters say it will do."

Here we agree.

"That is exaclty the same problem the right has. Your strategy for fighting socialism has never been successful."

It appears your strategy for fighting socialism is to not fight it at all, but just enact it at a slower pace and call it "Victory!!"

"The right thinks that they failed to defeat the left because they did not attack hard enough. The next time they will defeat Socialism if they just attack a lot harder."

America defeated Socialism in the Cold War because we had the courage to "attack a lot harder" and we need to Demolish the Left in this Country with the same passion that we attacked the Soviets. Just as Reagan was Right in naming the Soviet Union the Evil Empire, now we must acknowledge that the Left in this country is most certainly EVIL!! It is evil to trap inner city youths in non-performing public schools...it is evil to slaughter 80+ Christians at Waco and hold no one to blame...it is evil to slaughter over 40 Million unborn children...it is evil to centralize power in DeeCee when said Collectivism has been shown to decrease the Quality of Life of everyone but the select few who give themselves the Power!! The Far Right and the Far Left are not even close to being similar, sir!!

"One thing that is really appreicated by men like Bush, Lott, and Dole when they are at work trying to turn Socialism back. They can always count on the far right being there with a sharp knife to stab them in the back."

I am increasingly convinced that folks like Lott and Dole and Bush I have no desire to turn Socialism in America back as it has made them quite wealthy and powerful men. I thought Bush II might just be different and still hold out some hope that he may indeed be. But don't even try to blame the Principled Right with back-stabbing when it is our passion that allowed the GOP to come to power only to be short-changed again and again as the GOP moved America slowly to the Left while complaining that they just couldn't help themselves.

The Principled Right is not the problem, my FRiend, the problem lies with those Milquetoast Moderates who have no Principles to defend.

FReegards...MUD

157 posted on 05/27/2002 1:21:00 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Good analysis, Mr. Slim! I think you "nailed" every issue.

"Far Right" bump!

158 posted on 05/27/2002 3:15:52 PM PDT by sultan88
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To: Mudboy Slim
Oh MUD, you slay me with your Reagan talk and your knowledge of the facts....good for you...Facts speak much louder then spin and BS...

Your NY Pal,

Karen

160 posted on 05/27/2002 6:34:57 PM PDT by KLT
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To: Mudboy Slim
Mud that was a pretty good account of Ronald Reagan and how he operated and how his "base" reacted to him,. Now tell me Mud, What did Reagan ACTUALLY do to roll back "big government"? What agencies did he do away with? Which conservative causes, other than the military, did he advance and have in place at the end of his two terms?. Which court decisions under his watch rolled back "socialism"? Then ask yourself what has Bush done in 1/3 of one term that has not matched Reagan both good and bad?
161 posted on 05/27/2002 6:43:26 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Mudboy Slim
Hi, Mud!

What Bush is quietly doing to thwart the 'Third Way' globalists is awesome. Instead of telling the Afghani people how to live, he reminds them and all that they are to rule their own nation. Many within the EU nations now look at their own PC multiculturalism, beloved nations rotting from within, and the right is on the comeback for the first time since the European socialists/press demonized and drove out the last true conservative leader. Bush said NO to the global warming Nazis (to the WHOLE pack of them), NO to the world court, NO to the UN racist convention, sent pro-family CWA reps. to the UN conference on families (which angered the feminists...at first...then Chinese women and others actually thawed and asked "how can I keep my man from cheating on me?")...said YES to religious freedom from within China, got Russia to sign on to missile defense...all without name-calling, demeaning others, but with determination and focus. This is a voice, and a courage, that has been missing on the international scene for years, and persecuted people around the globe are finding the courage to speak out. Much like Reagan's "evil empire" speech heartened Soviet political prisoners who now knew that others knew about them....N. Korean Christians and political dissidents took heart from Bush's including N. Korea in the Evil Axis...finally, someone's acknowledging their suffering and exposing the brutal Communist rule Albright kowtowed to and celebrated...even on the day terorists bombed the USS Cole in Yemen.

The international globalists and third way supporters are so alarmed by these international changes that they're meeting in June...Clinton, Blair, corrupt socialist financiers...to try and get their plans for world domination and "utopia" back on track...(^:

167 posted on 05/28/2002 10:26:22 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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