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"... Why would it? I explaind how it works. It uses the same characteristics of a T1 or any other digital high speed line. And we all know how slow those are..."

You only explained how *theoretically* that long-range DSL speed could be such-and-such megabits transfer speed, but perhaps you should touch on the real-world performance and costing model that various Bells have adopted to service and bill the consumer.

Seems that the last I heard, the emerging 'LD-DSL' (Long-Distance DSL) that PacBell was offering was a pathetic 128kbps symmetric xfer rate (up/down) for $120/month.

Considering what you said earlier about the amount of bandwidth that can be given to a consumer normally out of the 20,000' range of a telco station -- don't you think that giving them 1/10th the speed at 5 times the normal price is a RIP OFF?

That would be a rip-off. I doubt that's the new DSLAM they have out though. From what I've read it's the same performance. Although standard DSL (not ADSL) performs close to that range.

I'll have to reread the articles I saw in OPT to verify.

Seems that the last I heard, the emerging 'LD-DSL' (Long-Distance DSL) that PacBell was offering was a pathetic 128kbps symmetric xfer rate (up/down) for $120/month.

There is a new company I know of that has just started their first residential rollout for broadband, which as it happens doesn't use the telco last mile (or anywhere in their transcontinental network). They have a 20,000' range also, and for a similar price the smallest service they deliver is 1-Mbit symmetric and they do it at a profit. This is the kind of competition the telcos really need -- there is hope yet.