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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
Nothing in the 9th or 10th says that the constitution is not supreme.

Excuse me, but that isn't how it works. The Constitution lists powers delegated to the federal government by the People(s) who ratified it. It's incorrect, to turn the 9th and 10th inside out, by claiming Sovereignty (or anything else) because it isn't specifically denied.

And whether you are claiming that the federal government is Sovereign, or in your last construction, the Constitution, you can't get there by quoting the Constitution. There is no grant of Sovereignty in the Constitution, and plenty of evidence in the debate records that the ratifiers didn't want there to be one.

910 posted on 06/04/2002 1:36:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
You've already indicated that you don't believe that "supreme" and "sovereign" are synonomous.  Therefore it is bootless to continue.  BTW, "The Sovereign" as you use it would be translated into "The Supreme one."  IOW, there is nothing higher.
911 posted on 06/04/2002 1:40:42 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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