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To: Mortin Sult
The south lost because it called down God's Wrath upon itself.

Do you see pink elephants too?

627 posted on 05/29/2002 7:09:51 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; Mortin Sult
[Morton Sult] The south lost because it called down God's Wrath upon itself.

[4CJ] Do you see pink elephants too?

He sees pink, all right. But he's filling in my picture of the moral universe he inhabits.....he equates the wrath of God with the displeasure of the Beechers and William Lloyd Garrison. Foolish me, I always thought the South lost because Abe Lincoln called down two million bayonets on it, and that God was very, very far away during the whole endeavour.

Signify to us, Sult. Do you really think that all the slaves lived in the way, and bore the stripes, that the runaways did whom the Beechers saw and were told about? Do you really think that they had any sort of true picture of conditions in the South?

You got one point right, that the "efficiency" of slavery meant lower wages for hire labor and less ability for the freeholder to get a crop. You can't compete with bond labor, but then we knew that ever since Gibbon demonstrated it about the Roman Empire, when he wrote about the decline of Italian agriculture in the later Republic and early Empire. But you want to lay waste an entire country, and a whole people, over the issue -- 140 years after the issue was settled. Doesn't anything bother you about that? Don't you get any red warning lights on your mental dashboard when you start to tic violently whenever anyone tries to say something nice about our Southern ancestors? You aren't dealing with a bunch of Holocaust deniers here. So what's the monkey on your back?

636 posted on 05/29/2002 7:46:03 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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