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To: copperheadmike
When the states entered into the Union they accepted the Constitution and the laws made under it as the supreme law of the land. They accepted that there were powers reserved to the United States and powers forbidden to the states by the Constitution. Any actions taken which violated the Constitution were certainly called for a response from the United States. The rebellion which those southern states entered into in 1861 was illegal. Lincoln was acting properly in his role as president in trying to prevent it. Once the south initated hostilities at Sumter then Lincoln had no choice but to call up the troops and put down the rebellion with force.
1,019 posted on 06/08/2002 6:13:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
The rebellion which those southern states entered into in 1861 was illegal.

I'm disappointed that you keep posting this stuff after it has been confuted.

It wasn't a "rebellion": it is ontologically impossible to "rebel" against something of which one is no longer a member.

Southerners always had the right, as did every State in the Union, to withdraw from the Union either singly or en bloc. If Alaska were tomorrow designated the National Trash Dump and Parking Lot, I'd expect them to withdraw from the Union, too, and for good cause.

Southern States exercised their rights as sovereign (we've established that), free Peoples to dissolve the ties between themselves and the Union, just as our ancestors dissolved their tie to the British Crown.

The level on which the Southern States acted was as Peoples, as Sovereigns.......please get it through your held, N-S, that as among sovereigns, there is no Law!

Among sovereigns, the only law is treaty law, and treaties are only as good as agreement among the principals makes them. Capiche?

1,021 posted on 06/08/2002 7:55:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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