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The purge continues.
1 posted on 05/23/2002 6:07:25 AM PDT by NYer
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...So gradually I came back to the importance of celibacy in my life.

What the hell is this supposed to mean? Gradually. This was only twenty years ago. You mean he lived most of his ordained life as a queer!

88 posted on 05/23/2002 8:14:53 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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"CHURCH ABUSE - ARCHBISHOP REMBERT WEAKLAND"

This headline says a LOT. There are few people in the Church who have ABUSED it more thoroughly than Weakland. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Ok. Who's next? Let's get these astards-Bay OUT of our Church.

Note to Weakling: "Get thee to a monastery!" (apologies to the immortal Bard...)

91 posted on 05/23/2002 8:17:31 AM PDT by redhead
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Weakland has been a one man demolition crew in terms of his effects on orthodox Catholic teaching. Notice how often doctrinal deviancy and dissent is accompanied by sexual licence and corruption.

Weakland's last major project was the vandalisation, excuse me, "renovation" of Milwukee's Cathedral, in complete disregard of the howls of anguish and protest of faithful Catholics in his diocese. He even ignored a directive from Rome and thumbed his nose at the Vatican.

The American hierarchy needs to be thoroughly purged.

95 posted on 05/23/2002 8:29:59 AM PDT by marshmallow
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Here are a couple of interesting links mentioning Abp. Weakland in particular. The articles are both from the "New Oxford Review" and the first one is interesting because it lists all US Diocese and the ratio of vocations to the Catholic population.

"Dear Bishop: If You Really Want More Vocations…"

"Remodel the Cathedral: What a Boondoggle!"

102 posted on 05/23/2002 8:52:34 AM PDT by american colleen
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Matthew Flynn, an attorney for the archdiocese, reached after the interview aired on the East Coast but before it appeared in Milwaukee

For out-of-towners... Matt Flynn is one of the biggest players in Left wing politics in Milwaukee. And, in general, an idiot.
115 posted on 05/23/2002 9:05:33 AM PDT by Daus
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Of all the places I live.....
124 posted on 05/23/2002 9:21:17 AM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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hasta la vista, baby!
135 posted on 05/23/2002 9:38:09 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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Another reason to be oh-so-proud to be from Wisconsin (/sarcasm)

275 posted on 05/23/2002 2:08:46 PM PDT by WIladyconservative
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http://www.sunspot.net

Minister accused of sex crimes: Soliciting a minor over Internet among charges from state police sting

By Julie Bykowicz
Sun Staff

May 23, 2002

A Dundalk minister has been arrested and charged with soliciting sexual intercourse from a Maryland State Police trooper posing as a 13-year-old named Jennifer in an Internet chat room.

The Rev. Jonathan N. Gerstner, 44, is accused of sending instant messages to "Jennifer" from his Inverness Presbyterian Church computer beginning at 12:30 p.m. Tuesday and, within hours, arranging an afternoon sexual tryst with the girl at a park in Bowie, state police spokesman Lt. Bud Frank said.

"He truly believed he was talking to a 13-year-old the whole time," Frank said.

Using the screen name "baltimorecare," Gerstner wrote that he wanted to teach the girl about sex, according to a statement of probable cause filed in Howard County District Court.

His unsolicited messages to "Jennifer" asked her to engage in sexual intercourse and oral sex acts with him, the court document states.

The father of five, who lives in Perry Hall, became senior pastor at Inverness after serving as a professor at Knox Theological Seminary in Fort Lauderdale, according to the church's Web site. He has been minister at Inverness for about two years.

The eight ruling elders of the 62-year-old church met yesterday morning and removed Gerstner from active ministry, assistant pastor Bill Broderick said yesterday. The allegations against Gerstner were forwarded to the church's ecclesiastical courts for further action, according to a statement released by the church yesterday.

The Inverness statement expressed support for the Gerstner family and thanked the Maryland State Police "for their outstanding work in this matter."

"We're just trying to get through this," said Broderick. "We've got to deal with this whole thing."

Gerstner has been charged with attempted second-degree rape, attempted second-degree sex offense, attempted third-degree sex offense and using a computer to solicit sex from a minor, police said. He was being held yesterday at the Howard County Detention Center on $50,000 bond.

A bail-review hearing is scheduled for 10:30 a.m. today. Gerstner is being held in Howard because the computer crimes unit of the state police is based there.

Gerstner was arrested about 2:40 p.m. Tuesday, immediately after he arrived at Foxhill Park off Collington Road in Bowie - the prearranged meeting site, Frank said.

Police were not aware the man was a clergyman until after his arrest, Frank said.

The computer crimes unit, which carried out the sting against Gerstner, patrols the Internet looking for sexual predators, Frank said. The unit was created in 1991 and has grown to include 13 full-time personnel, he said.

"And there is more than enough work for them," Frank said. Since January 2000, the unit has arrested 35 people accused of attempting to solicit sex from a minor, he said.

Troopers seized a computer from the Wise Avenue church Tuesday night but did not search Gerstner's home in the 5000 block of New Forge Road in Perry Hall, Frank said.

When reached at home yesterday, Gerstner's wife, Kathy, declined to comment on the charges against her husband. She teaches a Bible study class at Inverness, according to the Web site. The couple's fifth child was born in February 2001.

Gerstner earned a doctorate in theology from the University of Chicago and has studied in South Africa and the Netherlands, according to the Inverness Web site.

The state Court of Appeals is considering a case that could put the computer crimes unit out of business.

In August 2000, a Frederick circuit judge dismissed charges against a Camden, N.J., man who was accused of traveling to Frederick to meet with a fictitious 15-year-old girl. The judge agreed with the defense's argument in that case that no crime was committed because the girl was an adult police officer and it is legal for two adults to meet this way.

Maryland Attorney General J. Joseph Curran Jr., who argued part of the appeal of that decision before the high court in May of last year, said, "Our argument is, it was not a legal impossibility. ... He intended to have illegal sexual activity with a young girl."

Sun staff writer Tim Craig contributed to this article.

Copyright © 2002, The Baltimore Sun

296 posted on 05/23/2002 2:48:05 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Well, here's what Bill Donohue has to say:

THE CASE OF ARCHBISHOP WEAKLAND: TIME FOR AN ETHICAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS

Responding to reports that Archbishop Rembert Weakland paid $450,000 to a man who accused him of sexual assault two decades ago is Catholic League president William Donohue:

"Any priest who violates his vow of celibacy is guilty of wrongdoing. Married men and women who break their marital vows are also guilty of wrongdoing. But it needs to be asked what social good is served when current disclosures of past indiscretions are made public. The time has come to invoke an ethical statute of limitations.

"Rumors abound everyday about the alleged sexual misconduct that a clergyman once committed. The motives are not pure. Some are interested in making headlines; some are engaged in blackmail; and others are promoting politics. This kind of sexual McCarthyism serves no constructive purpose.

"To be sure, American society is culturally schizophrenic: we sponsor a libertine understanding of sexuality that puts a premium on genital liberation and yet are appalled by the psychological and physical consequences that such a vision entails. We also expect that every person of the cloth will at all times restrain his libido while everyone else is free to throw constraint to the wind. The immaturity that characterizes this response is deep-seated.

"Voyeurism is usually considered an individual property but in the United States it has taken on a collective identity. It is now a society-wide phenomenon and is sustained by an appetite that is apparently insatiable. But that does not justify its perverse indulgence. To make matters worse, those who always harbored an agenda against their most-hated prelate think it's time to rejoice. Count the Catholic League out. It's time everyone-on the left and on the right, straight as well as gay-chilled out. Enough is enough."


346 posted on 05/23/2002 6:12:12 PM PDT by B Knotts
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This is soooooo sickening.
350 posted on 05/23/2002 6:22:26 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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