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American Fascism
The Laissez Faire City Times ^ | Feb. 8, 1999 | Ace

Posted on 05/21/2002 10:21:23 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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Reposted, as articles prior to 9-4-01 cannot be 'bumped'.
1 posted on 05/21/2002 10:21:23 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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What's wrong with a little Fascism?
2 posted on 05/21/2002 10:23:29 AM PDT by rageaholic
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What's wrong with a little Fascism?

Nothing, according to "conservatives" like Bill Bennett and his authoritarian ilk, and many posters on FR.

3 posted on 05/21/2002 10:38:30 AM PDT by bassmaner
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As Ludwig von Mises observed, Fascism, Nazism, and Socialism are varying versions of the same core conviction: that it is the sacred duty of popular government to prevent the emergence of profits by public control of production and distribution. What distinguishes Fascism and Nazism from Socialism in economic theory is how they translate "public control" into reality.

For the socialist, it means outright nationalization-government ownership-of private business. In a socialist state, the government owns and operates the airlines, railroads, banks, phone companies, and any other business you can think of. Everyone is an employee of the State.

For the fascist, public or government control is just that-control, rather than nationalized ownership, via complete bureaucratic regulation of ostensibly private business.

As an ardent admirer of Marx, Mussolini coined the term "Fascism" for his brand of authoritarian, patriotic Marxism. Fascism operates under the principle of "might makes right," through the exercise of raw, naked governmental police power.

In America today, the increasingly rough-shod violation of constitutional rights by government agents in the name of "protecting the environment" or the "war on drugs" is an indication of how far we are proceeding in this direction.

Intellectually, fascism is far more dishonest than socialism, which at least has the courage to assert legal ownership of the economy and thus assume the legal responsibility for its functioning.

As we can see, liberals are the pro typical Fascist - they're dishonest and they want Government control of all aspects of our life.

4 posted on 05/21/2002 10:41:33 AM PDT by jimkress
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involuntary military draft

involuntary registration?? Is that still the law?
5 posted on 05/21/2002 11:05:46 AM PDT by My Identity
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The difference between Facists, Communists, and Socialists:

Facists were pretty uniforms. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

Communists were camofloge uniforms. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

Socialists were bad suits. Steal everything you have, and kill you if you don't believe it's for your own good, or if they just feel like it.

6 posted on 05/21/2002 11:38:30 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: My Identity
Yes, all males are required to register for the draft on their 18th birthday under penalty of law.
7 posted on 05/21/2002 11:40:26 AM PDT by Jack Black
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"Fascism: Any program for setting up and centralizing an autocratic regime with severely authoritarian politics exercising regulation of industry, commerce and finance, rigid censorship, and forcible oppression of opposition. —
Webster's Unabridged Dictionary "

Sure sounds like Communism but you would have to add control of education, media and Hollywood.

8 posted on 05/21/2002 11:42:57 AM PDT by ex-snook
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Great article. Thanks!

Now what? Unfortunately I don't see a way back. Our best efforts only slow the ever increasing reach of the Fascists. I'm 45. I worry about my kids, but despite my best efforts they are less outraged than I am. Perhaps my grandkids (should my children be granted procreation licenses) will find it all so normal it won't bother them at all.

With both parties fully supporting income redistributing, eco-regulating, cradele-to-grave tracking big government I don't see a lot of options for restoring freedom.

The Free State Project has a new idea, so I'm checking them out. I'm still voting, contributing, etc. And posting and reading but I'm not expecting any change in the right direction. Sadly.

9 posted on 05/21/2002 11:45:24 AM PDT by Jack Black
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What ever happened to The Laissez Faire City Times? I can no longer find it on tne web.
10 posted on 05/21/2002 11:50:44 AM PDT by thrcanbonly1
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Thanks for reposting this. I have bookmarked it.

Sometimes when I refer to Fascist Davis, those who have not learned about Fascism challenge me. This will be an excellent tutorial to refer them to.

11 posted on 05/21/2002 12:04:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Up to twelve years in the 'public schools'/re-education camps has a large effect on all kids, just as the Party planned.

But there's enough residual liberty left in the country to teach most kids to be cynical about the agenda shovelled out to them by supposedly 'responsible' adults.

The cynicism of alienated youth may turn out to be the country's salvation! lol

History is almost entirely an ironic account. ;^)

12 posted on 05/21/2002 12:07:18 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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In the real world of non-revisionist history, the problem of politics has always been the diametric polarization of the individual and a governing elite.

Poor guy. Why must he use his prose like guillotine? He's cut the world in half, with the unreal part prior to the Enlightenment chopped off, legs dangling, while the severed head, happy with all the blood, speaks of an absolute and false dichotomy of the individual and state. Methinks it is looking cross-eyed from staring at polarities.

Did I misunderstand him? He don't like some folks and he can say so with humility giving way to hate.

13 posted on 05/21/2002 12:19:38 PM PDT by cornelis
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Try this ...
http://www.zolatimes.com/

14 posted on 05/21/2002 12:21:50 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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Outstanding post. Here's a quote I think is apropos.

"It should never be forgotten by leaders of democratic nations that nothing except the love and habit of freedom can maintain an advantageous contest with the love and habit of physical well-being. I can conceive of nothing better prepared for subjection in case of defeat than a democratic people without free institutions." - De Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835.

15 posted on 05/21/2002 12:27:45 PM PDT by PsyOp
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Here are a few more thoughts on the subject.

"We have to combat the wolf of socialism, and we shall be able to do it far more effectively as a pack of hounds than as a flock of sheep." - Winston Churchill, speech, 1937.

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, October 22, 1945.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill, Perth, May 28, 1948.

"The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination: between concentration of ownership in the hands of the State and the extension of a property-owning democracy; between a policy of increasing restraint and a policy of liberating energy and ingenuity: between a policy of levelling down and a policy of finding opportunities for all to rise upwards from a basic standard." - Winston Churchill, speech in Woodford, England, January 28, 1950.

16 posted on 05/21/2002 12:44:17 PM PDT by PsyOp
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How about a link to the original thread...did I miss it?
17 posted on 05/21/2002 12:51:57 PM PDT by f.Christian
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The British nation now has to make one of the most momentous choices in its history. That choice is between two ways of life: between individual liberty and State domination

Happily, that is not the only or most momentous choice in life.

18 posted on 05/21/2002 12:53:06 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: f.Christian
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b548ccc25e5.htm

19 posted on 05/21/2002 1:47:55 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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*Bump* for later
20 posted on 05/21/2002 2:07:27 PM PDT by Yardstick
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