[liberalism=failure]

I hope you guys also realize that you are on the same side of this as most liberals, in fact the more liberal they are the more they are likely to hold the same view.

[Cachelot]

I hope you guys also realize that you are on the same side of this as most liberals

Hehe. Old Zviadist also seems to have a Lenin-fetish. That ought to tell you something.

[Freetus]

...the same side of this as most liberals

Besides the Christians who believe that Israel is there because Jesus wanted it that way, there is plenty of conservatism that would have a short fuse for Israel or her defenders who can shame even a Johnnie Cochrane through their constant and abusive playing of the race card, in this case, the antisemitism card.

Israel itself was the product of a reparations campaign - a shakedown of Western Civilization for what was due the poor peoples who have suffered. Where do you think the Palestinians learned it? Just because Israel has become colonial itself does not mean that her creation was not born in the same stew of communist and anti-colonialism that runs in the streets of the Palestinian ghettos today. A homeland for everyone! Forty acres and a mule! Back to the Promised Land! Right the ancient wrongs!

[ThreeOfSeven]

I hope you guys also realize that you are on the same side of this as most liberals, in fact the more liberal they are the more they are likely to hold the same view.

There is some overlap between the libertarian limited-government viewpoint and the egalitarian liberal viewpoint. Both support human rights, but liberals go overboard on big government programs to regulate society and redistribute wealth.