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To: VRWC_minion
You need to explain exactly how I was committing the fallacies you are accusing me of. (And isn't there a fallacy for when someone accuses another of committing falacies instead of addressing their points? If there isn't, there should be. Maybe the VRWC_minion Falacy? Has a nice ring to it.)
239 posted on 05/21/2002 12:15:29 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare
You need to explain exactly how I was committing the fallacies you are accusing me of. (And isn't there a fallacy for when someone accuses another of committing falacies instead of addressing their points? If there isn't, there should be. Maybe the VRWC_minion Falacy? Has a nice ring to it.)

I explained two already. The one regarding slippery slope is where you put forward all the bad consequences without specifying them and stating realistic potentials. Another was your branding the proposal as simplistic which is an example of complex question.

You might find this site interesting

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/index.htm

You may not be a liberal but your tendency toward arguing based on logical fallacies makes you prone to the disease.

245 posted on 05/21/2002 12:29:06 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Your Nightmare
Your answer still indicates you'd prefer to shoot down the airplane rather than let the pilots defend themselves as they need to against UNFORSEEN FUTURE attacks. You would rather shoot down airliners than let responsible Americans defend themselves.

Why are you afraid of responsible Americans defending themselves?

We ahve shown that the cockpit doors ARE NOT on present aircraft, don't work if they were, and can't be installed, nor can they be left shut during flight.

We have shown that ANY air marshall can be immediately killed silently and quickly ... if by nothing else than a plastic stick THROUGH the seat behind him right into his gut.

THAT gives the hijacker IMMEDIATE and UNPREVENTABLE access to the MARSHALL's gun ... WHILE LEAVING THE PILOT (the ONLY person who needs a weapon!) STILL disarmed. Against the NOW ARMED attackers.

257 posted on 05/21/2002 1:32:14 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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