Seriously, here's a good link for "Silent Scream": Pro-life. It's been very effective.
Posted on 05/20/2002 7:25:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
Seriously, here's a good link for "Silent Scream": Pro-life. It's been very effective.
My suggestion is to run, not walk, to the nearest book store that carries the book, "A Child is Born," by Lennart Nilsson. These are, by far, the best quality pictures ever taken of the unborn. Show the people for themselves just how "unhuman" (NOT!) babies are in the various stages of development. These pictures will say a thousand words.
Also, by the way, please tell your daughter that there are BUNCHES of people out here who respect her for having the guts and courage to stand up for what she knows to be the right and ETHICAL position to take. Good for her, and God bless you both!
"It's not right if the mother can't support the child, and once she holds the baby she'll want to keep it and it will have a miserable life."
These sorts of statements are easy to see through, but hard to explain to students who isn't used to thinking for themselves. The statement at face value is not in any way "pro-choice", it is pro-coercion. The student says "once she holds the baby she'll want to keep it," and personally disagrees with the choice to keep the baby. So the student advocates abortion to take the choice to keep it away from the mother.
ONE of the best plces on the net for abortion info and facts!
'When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment. Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million.
Further, a Nazi decree of October 19, 1941 established abortion on demand as the official policy of Poland. Hitler, however, expressed dissatisfaction with this policy. Abortion, he believed, should NOT be limited to Poland. He therefore ordered that abortion be expanded to all populations under the control of the "Ministry of the Occupied Territories of the East."
On July 22, 1942, the Fuhrer exhibited a highly positive attitude towards abortion as an indispensable method of dealing with the non-German populations in countries under Nazi control. "In view of the large families of the native populations," he asserted, "it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible."
"The inescapability of an order of good and evil, which is not ours to command but by which we will eventually be measured, is a steady pressure on our individual consciences, and it is made manifest by the elaborateness of attempts to deny it."
Perhaps this will help her.
This is bogus because whether the cord is cut or not, the baby is never PART of the mother in any way; even the placenta has the genetic makeup of the BABY. It is simply attached to the inside of the uterus in order to provide sustenance for the baby. It is a miracle of God (or nature, if you prefer) that the baby is not attacked by the woman's disease preventing mechanism and expelled as a 'foreign object' from the woman's body. It's probably the hormones!
"It doesn't have a brain, can't think for itself yet." (Babies can't do much on their own for months . . . isn't this Peter Singer's argument?)
I believe the brain waves are detectable in an unborn baby at about 4-6 weeks, with the heart being detectable at about 8 weeks. It may not be able to think for itself, but neither can a newborn; that IS Peter Singer's ghoulish argument for allowing severely mentally or physically deformed babies to be killed after birth. And if hospitals have established the cessation of brain waves as the time of natural death, why shouldn't the creation of brain waves be the BEGINNING of life?
"It's not right if the mother can't support the child, and once she holds the baby she'll want to keep it and it will have a miserable life
This is where a very good crisis pregnancy center can help. There are trained counselors who can help her make that decision. If it is a young woman in her 20's, maybe she can handle it, but for teenagers it is VERY difficult. The baby didn't ask to be created, and shouldn't be killed just because it's creation is inconvenient to its mom or dad. It should be allowed to have the very best chance possible, and it could be argued that giving this child a life with a two parent family would be the most loving gift a young woman could give her child. We are such an 'immediate gratification' society, it is hard to convince girls that 10 months out of their lives (childbirth and recovery) is a drop in the bucket compared to what lies ahead. If they want the best for themselves and their child, they will think seriously about giving it up for adoption. A baby is not a puppy, or a doll. It will love unconditionally, but is also very demanding, and a teenager just doesn't have the attitude of self-sacrifice needed for that.
Hope some of this helps. Good luck to your daughter and tell her, "YOU GO GIRL!"
"Whether an unborn baby is a person yet or not isn't really the point ... the fact is that left to nature, the baby will be born and then no one would deny his or her right to live. So what's the difference in killing a baby before birth or after ? Even if you don't believe an unborn child is a person yet, you're still killing what will become a person and how can that be better ?"
I know its not the best arguement, but its at least "opened the door" a few times.
Unless they shout her down, these are irrefutable.
The liberal SCOTUS said it was a matter of privacy, protected by the Constitution that allows this act. Logically it says that the privacy of a mom and a hitman is inviolate if the kid is less than a certain age and resides in a specific place.
If it's OK to kill them, because they don't have a brain and don't feel a thing; then it's OK to kill anyone when they're sleeping. BTW, ultrasound images show very young fetuses attempting to escape the doctors probes, just like any kid would. They're just not as adept at escape as say a six y/o.
Abortion is an act commited by a paid killer. The client is a person that doesn't want the target around, because for some reason the person bothers them.
,,, what an interesting assertion this is. The child has a brain that is at the dawn of it's development. The input given by parents and society as it is raised determines to a large extent how life may turn out for it. If it's loved and educated, the child thrives. If it's neglected and left to rot, well, you know how it is. A brain at that stage of life is raw material; a blackboard waiting to be written on. Part of the richness of life is a parent's fulfillment in watching a child grow and learn. A parent's contribution is critical. Those involved in the pro-choice side of the debate don't like lifting the rock on this possibility. It means having to give something of themselves - that runs contrary to their whole outlook and the motivational basis of their argument.
Most lefties are very pro-UN, because they feel that the UN protects human rights, and they like the sound of "human rights." So the question I'm burning to ask is: What will you do if the UN decides a fetus is a human?
Warning, I'm not really on your side on this, I'm pro-choice, just very anti-UN, and don't really see how people would be able to reconcile this issue if indeed the UN ever DID decide that "human" rights naturally would extend to "human" fetuses. Because logically, we wouldn't be able to say "no they don't" if the only criterion for *human* rights is to be human.
If a technologist takes an zygote and alters it genetically, correcting a gene disorder that would have rendered it non-viable, was that life created at fertilization, or was it created when the defect was corrected?
Where do the original actual 46 chromosomes from an embryo end up? Do they end up in part of the resulting baby, do they end up in the "scaffolding" [placenta, umbillical cord, amniotic sac, etc.], do they end up in some specific mix of places, or do they get randomly distributed?
Given the location of the status quo, I personally would think it easier to focus on arguments starting after six-eight weeks gestation. I'm not saying you should concede that an earlier-term embryo or fetus isn't a person, but you should agree not to argue that point. As technology improves, it will be easier to move the "line of protection" toward conception [i.e. today most people would probably agree that a six-month fetus is a baby, but would not say the same about a three-month fetus; if three-month fetuss can be successfully delivered and incubated to yield mature healthy babies, most people would probably agree that those too are babies].
Liberals have gotten very good at using incrementalism to restrict the right to keep and bear arms and other rights; perhaps conservatives need to learn the same techniques.
Instead of argument, may I suggest a little role playing?
Have your daughter give every one of her classmates a die, and a handkerchief. They sit down, place the handkerchief on their heads, and say "I am an unborn child".
Each clas member then rolls the die. Your daughter says "Those who rolled 1 or 2, hands up!. Right. You were aborted. Sit on the floor, and shut your eyes. You are dead."
And to the others - "You are survivors. Remove the handkerchief, stand up and look at the light of day."
After the game, she can say "This is what happened to our generation. For every two children in this room, there is a third who didn't make it. That classmate might have been a great athlete, a fun person to be with, a dearfriend, or even your intended spouse. Now how do you feel about abortion?"
Since you say the school is nominaly Christian, the lesson can conclude with this prayer:
Heavenly Father, who created us all, seen and unseen, hear our prayers for anyone who may consider destroying an innocent child. Guide them to save the smallest, weakest and most beautiful of your creations. For all those tiny ones who were lost this day through abortion, receive these orphans who could not cry out. Wrap them in your divine love and bestow your blessings on them in Heaven.
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