[sayfer bullets]

The point of my post was that our law--THE Law, the Constitution of the United States--doesn't recognize the unborn as being "persons"...exactly as slaves were not recognized as "persons" until the 13th amendment. Therefore, the unborn have no more Constitutional rights than monkeys. The only LEGITIMATE way to grant Constitutional rights to the unborn is to pass a Constitutional amendment...exactly as the 13th (and 14th) Amendments changed the Constitution to recognize rights for the former without-rights slaves.

That is the most tortured reading of the Constitution's view of life I could ever imagine.

I guess if one doesn't believe in a creator, that part of the statement is moot to them, so instead we have our lives GIVEN to us by a piece of paper. Incredible.

You can begin to see what a libertarian US would look like, can't you? It certainly make you see why some were uncomfortable with the concept of a "Bill of Rights" in the first place.

[jwalsh07]

Bahners type of libertarian doles out liberty the way the left doles out welfare. A person is defined as a living human being, independent of geography. A hypocrite is defined as MArk Bahner type libertarians.