[sayfer bullets]

Instead, the uniqueness of the human, that which makes a human a human, is not his genetic potential, not his gene code, it is his mind. And the mind doesn't develope right away. I can't tell you when the mind reaches the stage of a human, but it isn't when it is a small clump of cells right after conception.

Seems to be a bit of a reach, IMO. "small clump of cells" is a strawman.

[jwalsh07]

For years now jlog has been searching for a mind-o-meter. Having failed to find or build one, you would expect him to give the babies the benefit of the doubt, eh?

[Kevin Curry]

[jlogajan sez] "I can't tell you when the mind reaches the stage of a human, but it isn't when it is a small clump of cells right after conception."

He says he doesn't have a clue when this happens and then he proceeds to tell us exactly when it doesn't happen.

I've often wondered of the atheist libertarians who mouth the words "unalienable rights," what are they thinking when those words roll through their brains? How can any clump of mere biological matter birthed by mindless, directionless, purposeless chaos claim to have ANY rights?

Viewed honestly from the cramped, unbreathing, dead perspective of the atheist libertarian, "unalienable rights" is a totally absurd and illogical concept.