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To: longshadow
I'm saying the (Mathematical) illustration you used in your philosopical argument is flawed (assuming you want to be able to say "apples can't be both apples AND oranges" or something like that). Thus it DOES affect your philosophical argument.

Exactly! Apples cannot be oranges… If an apple was an orange it would not be an apple. I think you are getting it. Hey, and you know what… a vegetable is not a fruit!

Once someone called me a scum sucking, no good, apple-headed – job shopper.
Of course I responded, “who are you calling apple-headed?”

BTW, since you haven't provided any counter evidence to my example of a square with side length = 0 being identical to a circle of radius = 0, I assume you are now in agreement with me that there is, in fact, one case where a square can be both a circle and a square. Right?

This is the same as asking you to admit the earth is square. Or red is green. Black is white. Or for you to state that the only truth is that truth does not exist.

Keep things in context. Again:
If God were to change His Law’s the ‘Perfectness’ or ‘Justness’ or other intrinsic qualities (depending on the change) would not apply.”

870 posted on 05/23/2002 8:47:12 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
This is the same as asking you to admit the earth is square. Or red is green. Black is white. Or for you to state that the only truth is that truth does not exist.

Oh, so you disagree?

Okay, first of all, nothing in what I've said suggests the earth is square or "red" is "green." That is a misrepresentation on your part.

The ONLY thing I've said is that I can describe a square that can be perfectly circular and still be a square; specifically, a square with side length = 0. It is identical to a circle of radius = 0. Therefore, it is both "square" and "circular", in accordance with the rigorous definitions of "square and "circle" previously provided.

If you believe my example conflicts with the definitions, please provide the specific deficiency, such as identifying which side of my zero-length square is unequal to the other sides, and which point in my zero-radius circle is some distance other than zero from the center. IOW, if you think my conclusion is wrong, show how my example violates the previously provided definitions of a square and a circle.

If my example is as flawed as you seem to be suggesting, it should be trivially easy for you to do this.

875 posted on 05/23/2002 9:23:07 PM PDT by longshadow
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