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To: Heartlander; general_re
The point of the square circle question, as you well know, was to simply illustrate the intrinsic qualities that define an entity.

But I assert it is trivial to specify a square that is perfectly circular and is yet still a square.

Doesn't that undo your illustration?

You do concur it is possible to specify a square that is perfectly circular and is yet still a square, don't you?

776 posted on 05/23/2002 8:17:41 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
I foresee a square circle place marker.

Intrinsic:
1. basic and essential: belonging to something as one of the basic and essential elements that make it what it is
2. of itself: by or in itself, rather than because of its associations or consequences
3. ANATOMY found in body part: occurring wholly within or belonging wholly to a part of the body, for example, an organ

Do you two really not understand the point?

778 posted on 05/23/2002 8:30:50 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: longshadow
But I assert it is trivial to specify a square that is perfectly circular and is yet still a square.

It's not a trivial question. Assuming that the words "circle" and "square" have a specific meaning, what is propposed (a circular square) is this: Can there be an "A" which is also -- at the same time -- not an "A". So the question becomes this: Can an omnipotent God contradict the law of identity (A = A)?

781 posted on 05/23/2002 8:51:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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