[r9etb]

What are a group's long term needs?

By Junior's definition, they are whatever the group decides they are. And, by extension, morality describes the "complex interplay" that allows the group to achieve its goals. Thus, in one blow, we've done away with individual rights, any hope for absolute morality, any moral arguments against conquest and enslavement, and I'm sure several others.

[Junior]

How are individual rights done away with? Groups are made of individuals and the group must recognize the needs, indeed the "rights" of the individuals within it or it ceases to function (cf., the Soviet Union). That is all part of the "complex interplay" mentioned above.