Are Conservatives Addicted to the Drug War?

The Fountain of Truth ^ | May 19, 2002 | Douglas F. Newman

[hellonewman]

I am likewise amazed that the WOD set has not crucified me over this one.

[southern rock]

If my money is going to extorted from me and flushed down the toilet

Do yourself a favor and put at least half the energy you put into bashing drugs and drug users into bashing taxes and the IRS, and you might gain some credibility.

[JMJ333]

Too bad the government won't keep volatile and dangerous drugs like RU-486 off the market like they do recreational drugs, but they are going to go ahead an shove it down our throats beginning in California. Apparently it is okay to starve your unborn baby to death and perhaps kill yourself in the process with RU-486, but not okay to kill yourself by catching a buzz. So much for consistancy.

[southern rock]

It's the least they could suffer for inconveniencing the rest of us.

Lock up anyone who doesnt wear a seatbelt while riding in a car because I might have to support them if they become a vegetable.

Lock up anyone who doesnt wear a helmet while riding a bike because I might have to support them if they become a vegetable.

Lock up anyone who doesnt wear a blabla while riding a blabla because I might have to support them if they become a vegetable.

Hey Kevin, by all means, keep bashing the red herring, and not the real problem.

[Arkinsaw]

No, not really. Governor Huckabee of my State for one has suggested that the nation needs to have a long hard look at alternative ideas. He is a former Baptist Minister, played for the Freepers with his band, and is certainly a Conservative. He's correct that we need to take a long hard look.

I don't believe that Conservatives are really in favor of locking up so many addicted citizens so there is no room left for violent criminals. I don't believe that Conservatives are really in favor of seizing people's property without being able to arrest them and forcing them to prove that their property is "innocent". Can't and don't believe that.

[Drammach]

While I cannot argue the merits of whether THC levels have increased since the 60's or 70's, I would argue that todays' pot is not any better than yesterdays' pot.
Fact is, my observances are that todays' pot sucks.
I haven't had a good high since 1981, and the ocassional hits I have had since that time were useless.
People tell me they have this really great shit, try it, they paid $125 for 1/4 oz., and it does nothing.

We used to go out and harvest our own, in Kentucky and Missouri, and a couple of hits would give you halucigenetic flashes.
It's been 20 years now, and I have seen nothing like that, and besides, it's way too expensive.
Supposed THC levels aside, today's stuff wouldn't get a fly high.

[Kerberos]

"Such were my thoughts after reading Bill O'Reilly's May 16 column on World Net Daily in which he classifies drug dealing as a "crime against humanity."

O'Reilly never has had a clue about the underlying causes of the drug problem and the failed WOD, and probably never will.

" it provides no solution to what is ultimately a moral and spiritual problem. "

And this, IMHO, is the crux of the problem, which as the article points out, will never be solved by a prohibition mentality.

[Lancey Howard]

Hey, let's "decriminalize" drugs.
Then we can have a great country like the Netherlands and great cities like Amsterdam.
Plus, we won't have our prisons bursting at the seams with young people who happened to get caught with a joint or two, blah blah blah.

[Lancey Howard]

Supposed THC levels aside, today's stuff wouldn't get a fly high.

Today's pot, mostly grown in the Carolinas, from what I have heard, could make a cup of coffee nervous. It's often a jittery, somewhat uncomfortable high. No comparison to the Panama Red, and the Acapulco Gold, and the Lebanese hash, and the good ole fashioned Thai stick we grew up with in the late '60s early '70s. Of course, I gave it up long ago, but this is what I hear.

[Texasforever]

ADDICTED TO THE DRUG WAR

99% of Conservatives and every other American give the WOD about 5 minutes a year worth of attention. The other 1% are just pissed that they have to get stoned in the dark. Mileage may vary.

[Lancey Howard]

Our choice is: prison at one end of the spectrum, nanny government rehab and coddling at the other, with a combination of the two in between.

You forgot to include government dispensing of heroin to hordes of zombie losers wandering around in superior, more enlightened countries like Norway, Sweden, and Netherlands. Some people apparently think America should be just like those countries.

[Texasforever]

Users will use whether or not they're legal, so why rip up the Bill of Rights - specifically, the 4th and 9 Amendments - just to satisfy the puritanical instincts of drug warriors? Prohibition of alcohol failed miserably, and the prohibition of other drugs is doing the same death dance.

Excuse me but that is just sophistry of the first order.

[Zon]

When anyone says anything in opposition to the Drug War, they spaz out as if they were tripping on Angel Dust.

The author must be reading FreeRepublic.

[Texasforever]

Perhaps if you become an innocent victim of this stupid war - I already outlined a few instances where total innocents get hurt (or killed) - then you'd be able to see things more clearly.

I have a better chance of winning the lottery or being killed by a transsexual dwarf on the 3rd Tuesday of April 2010, than becoming an "innocent victim" of the WOD. As I said, the WOD is not even on the radar screen of the American people, conservative or not, beyond calling the cops when some damn doper and his main man are conducting "business" in front of their houses.

[Zon]

Eliminate the WOD and the welfare STATE. Let business provide rehab and health services to people that chose to get off drugs.

Kevin Curry wrote: Our choice is: prison at one end of the spectrum, nanny government rehab and coddling at the other, with a combination of the two in between.

southern rock wrote: Always great to hear from someone who has simply shrugged his shoulders and conceded that socialism is and will always be the status quo in the U.S.of A

Here's a great quote from another WOD thread:

"The real irony is that you jokers think that a 'Free Republic' can best be restored and preserved by eliminating the 'Free' part." --  headsonpikes 738

[Zon]

I have a better chance of winning the lottery or being killed by a transsexual dwarf on the 3rd Tuesday of April 2010, than becoming an "innocent victim" of the WOD.