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Mom to take break from nude dancing so daughter can graduate from kindergarten
sacbee.com ^ | Saturday, May 18, 2002 | Erika Chavez -- -- Bee Staff Writer

Posted on 05/18/2002 9:44:55 PM PDT by let freedom sing

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:36:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Polybius
The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

Your school is. Or, more precisely, you believe that school should focus completely upon the child (or so I take your words). That is a valid viewpoint. But others may choose a different view: that the family is as much a part of the picture as the child...or nearly as much. That is also a valid viewpoint, IMO.

It comes down to a matter of choice by the individual school and explains why I like private schools and loathe public ones: Private schools offer more variety in settings, outlooks, and curriculum. Parents have more choice and everyone can end up getting more or less what they want out of a school.

I've not defended the mother: not because she is a stripper, but because she signed an agreement and broke it, then made a fuss over it when the results of her actions came home to roost. The actual policy of the school is not the point, IMO, but whether the mother agreed to the policy in the first place, which she admits to have done.

The policy itself is a seperate issue, and one that we here have only an academic interest in, as none of us have any children attending the school (that I know of). Evidently, enough people agree with the school's policies to keep it financially solvent. More power to them...but if I had a kid, I wouldn't send him or her there.

Tuor

221 posted on 05/19/2002 8:06:00 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: Jeff Chandler
She's paying 400 bucks a month to put her kid in KINDERGARTEN?

She's obviously got money from somewhere --maybe generous child support? How much do silicone implants cost and usually insurance doesn't cover that kind of surgery.

222 posted on 05/19/2002 8:06:12 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Rudder
This church/school went out of their way offering the mother free tuition through the end of the school year, help in finding a job, financial assistance...to which she rejected.
223 posted on 05/19/2002 8:07:53 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: one_particular_harbour
Codebreaker wants to sell bracelets.

I don't want bracelets. I want to spend a little time...er...ministering to Stripper Mom.

Tuor

224 posted on 05/19/2002 8:13:41 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: Polybius
"When one child's name came up, someone said that she would not be a candidate because "her parents are hard core atheists. I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit." yeah--then her parents will sue to have prayer taken out of that school... or Christianity altogether...
225 posted on 05/19/2002 8:22:45 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Bella_Bru
I wish I could have stripped my way through college and now grad school, but my boobs aren't big enough.

If you ever want to practice anyway, I'd be a willing test subject. :)

Tuor

226 posted on 05/19/2002 8:23:22 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: headsonpikes
Please don't tell me that Hillary is going to take up peeling for a living!

Doubt it. Strip clubs want people to drink not throw up.

227 posted on 05/19/2002 8:54:09 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: over3Owithabrain
You, the tipsy customer stuffing bills in the thong of a "future marine biologist" before going home to masturbate, don't see that.

Hey, what's with the quotes? You mean the outfits they wear on stage are not really indicative of the career they are persuing during the day? :P

228 posted on 05/19/2002 8:59:32 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: Sabertooth
Anybody mention Tickle-Me-Stripper-MomTM?
229 posted on 05/19/2002 9:14:29 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: let freedom sing
Mom agreed to compromise for her daughter's sake.
230 posted on 05/19/2002 9:26:33 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: Cindy
I'm praying for Ms. Silvas and her daughter. It is painfully obvious that she has no clue whatsoever what traditional family values are and what a Christian is. ...

it's been awile since i completed confirmation classes-Lutheran-and need help understanding why you say Ms. Silvas "has no clue whatsoever what... a Christian is".
I'm don't have an opinion yet as to the legality/morality of this much talked about 'contract' and its do's and don't do's-is the 'contract' clear and unambiguous?

231 posted on 05/19/2002 9:37:03 AM PDT by 1234
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To: Jeff Chandler
Well, I don't dance unless I'm drunk.
232 posted on 05/19/2002 9:46:25 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: Rudder
Too bad this pompous, self-righteous, nanny church couldn't bring itself to practice the teachings of Christ.

Which teaching of Christ do you have in mind? In my bible her tells the woman at the well, "Go and sin no more". In your's he apparently says, "Let's party".

233 posted on 05/19/2002 9:47:51 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Jeff Chandler
I don't smoke, but I do drink on occasion, and dance once in a blue moon.
I only scored a 50%. Good thing I don't belong to that church.

This guy became very attracted to a pretty Christian Fundamentalist and contemplating a long relationship with her, he decided to seek out more information about her religion and to take training in the teachings of this religion. He finds a high up church elder and decides to ask him questions about the Fundamentalist beliefs.
First he asks, "Does the religion allow me to drink coffee?"
"Why no," replied the church elder. "We don't believe coffee is a natural product since the beans are treated to enhance their flavor and we don't allow for anything that isn't completely natural."
"Well, what about tea then?"
"Tea's okay because it is totally natural."
"Well what is the church's position on dancing," asked the man.
"We don't allow for that either. We believe that is unnatural also," he replied quoting from the scriptures to make his point.
"Well, what about sex? Do you allow for sex?"
"Of course," replied the elder, "as long as it is between two married people."
"But do you allow for any kinky sex?"
"You will have to describe what you mean by kinky sex," the elder replied.
"Well for example, sex undertaken while standing up," the man responded.
"No, we don't allow for that either.....it could lead to dancing."

234 posted on 05/19/2002 9:49:51 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Stripper Mom(TM) Sit-N-Spin
235 posted on 05/19/2002 9:53:36 AM PDT by weegee
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To: L.N. Smithee
How in the world can you recruit the child of "hard core atheists" for a Christian school? I don't like "recruiting" children against the will or philosophy of their parents. I don't like it when atheists do it, not when communists do it, not when homosexuals do it, not when Democrats do it, and not when Christians do it.

If we lived in a large city, that would be true. In our small and extremely Liberal county, the name of the game is "How do we parents keep our children out of public school."

As a result, parents band together for school options. At our Christian school, we have students from all denominations and the prayer services are led by everyone from the Baptist minister to the Catholic priest.

Before the Christian school was available, we sent our kids to a secular private "Co-Op School" where we parents owned the lease on the building and we owned the teacher's contracts. Our Christian school has the same arrangement.

The student in question was a classmate from the secular co-op school. The parents now have to decide how to keep their child out of public school as the co-op school only goes to 5th grade and we go to 7th grade with plans to go to 8th. We are an option to public school.

If you are surprised that an atheist would send their child to a Christian school, you would be floored that one of our Jewish friends is sending her kid to a one teacher, Christian based private elemenary school in town as an alternative to public school. (He played a shepherd in the Nativity play last Christmas. Oy vey!). Last night, she dropped over and was discussion our school as a possible alternative for middle school.

Aversion to public schools makes for strange bed-fellows.

236 posted on 05/19/2002 10:02:20 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: L.N. Smithee
I should specify: I don't like "recruiting" of students by teachers in school against the will of the parents. Otherwise, I am all for preaching the Gospel.

I should also specify that I meant recruiting the parents to send the child to our school. (Note previous post about the school situation in our county.)

Recruiting the kids directly always fails as 6th graders always have trouble coming up with their tuition payments at the first of the month. ;-)

237 posted on 05/19/2002 10:08:32 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Tennessee_Bob
The Pastor then asked if he could share the good news with any media that may contact him. I told him that I would only be speaking with the lovely Erika Chavez from the Sacramento Bee and not the media until Monday. (I just wanted a quiet weekend!) Well in the next 5 minutes I got 4 phone calls from news and radio telling me they had just recieved a call from Pastor Cole...was it true I was quitting? I called the Pastor back and told him I said I didn't want to do another media circus and he said he misunderstood and oh, how sorry he was!

Cole didn't share the good news... it was only the bad. (She wasn't going back to his church.)

And as far as the mother taking it public, she didn't. The administrator of the website admits to having done it without her knowledge or permission.

The administrator placed the information on the website without her knowledge or permission? I don't think so-- she probably signed something somewhere in her centerfold contract, to limit the liability of the webmaster and the club. She probably forgot,-- "she sold her soul to the company sto(re.)"

238 posted on 05/19/2002 10:23:13 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Go look it up for yourself. The admin says he did it without her permission. But hey, you don't have to believe them if you don't want to.
239 posted on 05/19/2002 10:40:02 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: southern rock
any church that bans drinking and smoking sure as hell ain't getting my dollar in their collection plate on Sunday.

Skinflint!

240 posted on 05/19/2002 10:43:22 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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