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The Medicalization of Death
Center for Bioethics and Culture ^ | ? | G. Steven Suits, MD

Posted on 05/18/2002 9:32:26 PM PDT by JMJ333

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1 posted on 05/18/2002 9:32:27 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
great read, thanx.
2 posted on 05/18/2002 10:05:17 PM PDT by paix
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To: JMJ333
Interesting article, does any individuals need for medical treatment in order to continue life entitle that individual to the resources of others in order to pay the bills?
3 posted on 05/18/2002 10:54:31 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Well, we as a society pay the cost of crack babies; why would the oldsters be any less worthy?
4 posted on 05/18/2002 11:41:10 PM PDT by paix
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To: paix
From each according to his ability to each according to his need?
5 posted on 05/19/2002 12:14:21 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
sounds good, but this IS a welfare state....
6 posted on 05/19/2002 12:39:17 AM PDT by paix
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To: JMJ333; *Death Cultivation
More evidence of the progressive foisting upon our modern age of a critical paradigm shift.

The social contract has been gradually transformed. It will be no longer be one where cultural and legal institutions exist to defend innocent human life.

Those same institutions are being rehewn to set standards for a high quality of human life and to promote its achievement -- for those who are permitted to survive.

Those who are seduced by this Malthusian driven "necessity" will come to think they are gods and worthy.

Then there's the rest; the not quite so worthy. The article describes them here:

These fools too, fearful to enter into the debate, are, as I've analogized before, in a malevolent doublethink game of musical chairs. They will have hell to pay for their callousness and misplaced faith.

Isn't it obvious? If one sees it coming, and is afraid to speak of it, and is hoping it's the next one who gets taken, one will be consumed by it.

The enviro-wackos tell us they see a glorious day when our planet will no longer have to support more than half a billion people.
Know that they and their patrons will try.

7 posted on 05/19/2002 2:10:02 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: paix
You're welcome. =)
8 posted on 05/19/2002 4:43:25 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Interesting article, does any individuals need for medical treatment in order to continue life entitle that individual to the resources of others in order to pay the bills?

Not to sound cranky, but your comment is the 3rd of its type in regard to differing articles I have posted lately on abortion, eugneics and now euthanasia. In each, the poster is more concerned about money than the life and worth of an innocent and defenseless individual.

I am sorry that you feel it a burden to have to pay for others when they are incapable of no longer taking care of themselves. I hope you never need help and have to depend on the generosity of others when you get old. Or--I suppose you can move to the Netherlands.

9 posted on 05/19/2002 4:51:22 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
I think there is plenty of evidence of the declining birth rate, not only in the developed wolrd, but also in the lesser developed countries as well. The notion promulgated by the left that we are in "need" of population control is just another lie to promote their culture of death.
10 posted on 05/19/2002 4:56:00 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
From each according to his ability to each according to his need?

So you consider us communists if we dare ask that people be cared for instead of euthanized? I am not for socialized medicine, but I could think of a thousand different reforms in the medical industry--getting the government out being number one to reduce cost-- than opting for killing people because you are to damn stingy to fork over any of your precious money.

11 posted on 05/19/2002 5:06:57 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Interesting article thanks for the post.
12 posted on 05/19/2002 5:42:59 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: JMJ333
BTTT and bump for later read.
13 posted on 05/19/2002 5:49:55 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: PGalt
You're welcome. Thanks for the bump.
14 posted on 05/19/2002 5:53:22 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Joe Montana
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15 posted on 05/19/2002 9:31:32 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; EternalVigilance; 2sheep; The Giant Apricots
First, I invite you to post those articles at the bump-list register "Death Cultivation: Evidence of Efforts Aimed at Leveling Humanity." Please include notes of explanation as to why the thread or individual post is being added.

Secondly, don't necessarily be too harsh on those who have been hardened by our ubermenschen societal planners.
If you've read C.S. Lewis' The Abolition of Man, you're aware that a good number of otherwise very good minds have had their hearts withered in situ by those claiming to promote open-mindedness.

As I see it, our best and maybe only chance to fight these megalomaniacs* is to revive the hearts of their intended victims. And, to do that, you've gotta alert those erstwhile victims to the fact that they have a heart and there are valient tasks, too long untended, awaiting of it.
Sheeple, once aware of their status, may not be that easily culled.
God, who turns water to wine, has imbued in sheeple what it takes to return them to full manhood.
This is, as I see it, the paramount reason that religion is under ever increasing attack today. The very concept of God, even without professed belief, but just making the attempt at an understanding of the concept of God leads to helping protect the weak and strong alike from this immense sin that is currently being implemented.

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*What you've posted here and elsewhere seems in agreement with my choice of that word.

16 posted on 05/19/2002 10:40:04 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla; Joe Montana
I would appreciate being asked before private freepmail is passed around, and then posted on the forum. Thanks.
17 posted on 05/19/2002 10:50:07 AM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
???
I had no private freepmail with you ever.
18 posted on 05/19/2002 11:02:06 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
...in regard to differing articles I have posted lately on abortion, eugneics and now euthanasia. In each, the poster is more concerned about money than the life and worth of an innocent and defenseless individual.

That is from a freep-mail I sent to Joe after a response from a differing article.

19 posted on 05/19/2002 11:03:57 AM PDT by JMJ333
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Gee, Then you oughta wonder how I came into possession of it?

Sneek a peek at your post number 9. Is it possible you plagiarized yourself from your freepmails in post number 9 here and forgot about it? Or did you intend to send post number 9 as a freepmail and send it out to the world instead?

Welcome to the club? :-\

20 posted on 05/19/2002 11:16:35 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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