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U.S. Intercepting Messages Hinting at a New Attack
The New York Times ^ | 5/18/02 (for editions of 5/19/02) | James Risen and David Johnston

Posted on 05/18/2002 10:31:35 AM PDT by GeneD

WASHINGTON, May 18 — American intelligence agencies have intercepted a vague yet troubling series of communications among Al Qaeda operatives over the last few months indicating that the terrorist organization is trying to carry out an operation as big as or bigger than the Sept. 11 attacks, according to intelligence and law enforcement officials.

But just as last summer's threats left counterterrorism analysts guessing about Al Qaeda's intentions, and believing that the attack might be carried out overseas, the new interceptions are so general that they have left President Bush and his counterterrorism team in the dark about the time, place or method of what some officials refer to as a second-wave attack. As a result, the government is essentially limited to taking broad defensive measures.

"It's again not specific — not specific as to time, not specific as to place," one senior administration official said.

The officials compared the intercepted messages, which they described as cryptic and ambiguous, to the pattern of those picked up last spring and early summer, when Qaeda operatives were also overheard talking about a big operation. Those signals were among the evidence that intelligence agencies presented to President Bush in August about the possibility of an imminent attack against the United States.

The senior official said Friday that the amount of intelligence relating to another possible attack, in Europe, the Arabian Peninsula or the United States, had increased in the last month. Some of it comes from interviews with fighters captured in Afghanistan.

But despite the disruption of Al Qaeda's operations around the world since Sept. 11, and despite major spending increases and shifts of resources to counterterrorism operations, American officials say they have not been able to fully piece together the clues about Al Qaeda's plans.

"There's just a lot of chatter in the system again," the official said. "We are actively pursuing it and trying to see what's going on here."

The government's frustration underscores the problem in fighting an unconventional foe like Al Qaeda.

Interviews with law enforcement and intelligence officials suggest that in the eight months since Sept. 11 the government has made only limited progress in its ability to predict Al Qaeda's next move, and that many proposed improvements in counterterrorism operations have yet to be put into effect.

This is despite considerable advantages that the United States lacked a year ago. The war in Afghanistan has provided a wealth of new information about Al Qaeda's structure and organization, for example.

In addition, the United States is also interrogating captured Qaeda fighters about the organization's plans. Officials say that debriefings of detainees have in some instances provided general warnings of another major attack that dovetail with the threats picked up in the intercepted communication traffic.

Facing intense criticism in recent days over disclosures that a series of possible clues about Al Qaeda's plans fell through the cracks in the months leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks, officials say that some significant changes have been made in the way threat information is studied and circulated within the upper reaches of the Bush administration.

For the first time, the C.I.A. and F.B.I. now compare notes on all terrorist threat information that comes in each day, filtering the intelligence through what they call an analytical "matrix" to determine which threats are the most credible and deserve the most attention. Their daily threat report is distributed to senior policy makers, including the White House director of homeland security, Tom Ridge. It provides a structure for debates among senior officials about whether to issue public threat warnings.

President Bush also now receives daily briefings from both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. George Tenet, the director of central intelligence, and Robert S. Mueller III, the F.B.I. director, are frequently present during those White House sessions. That way, each agency is able to hear the other's latest advice to the president. Before Sept. 11, he received a daily briefing only from the C.I.A.

Although officials say some potential attacks have been foiled, that has been largely credited to the arrest of terrorist operatives overseas by foreign governments rather than to intelligence gleaned from intercepted communications.

United States intelligence officials said that they began to intercept communications among Qaeda operatives discussing a second major attack in October, and that they have detected recurring talk among them about another attack ever since. Some of the intercepted communications have included frightening references to attacks that the Qaeda operatives say would cause vast numbers of American casualties.

The intercepted communications don't point to any detailed plans for an attack, and even the messages mentioning mass casualties don't refer specifically to the use of weapons of mass destruction like chemical, biological or nuclear devices.

Still, American officials say they believe the intercepts represent some of the most credible intelligence they have received since Sept. 11 about Al Qaeda's intentions. They have provided a troubling undercurrent for the Bush administration as it tries to sort through the hundreds of other terrorist threat warnings it has received over the past few months.

The pattern of intercepted communications that began last October has helped prompt at least five public threat alerts issued by the F.B.I. since last fall.

By contrast, federal law enforcement and intelligence officials say they have been skeptical of many of the far more specific threats they have received from individual informants over the past few months. One of the problems now facing American counterterrorism experts is that they say communications intercepts, while vaguely worded, are often highly credible threat warnings, while the very detailed and specific threats passed on by individual informants are often far less reliable.

Individual informants who approach American investigators in the United States or overseas often know what kind of story will get the biggest reaction. They also often come forward because of hidden motives, perhaps hoping for money or entrance into the United States. The C.I.A. routinely gives its informants polygraph tests in an effort to validate their stories.

But officials say that in some cases they have been forced to take tales told by informants more seriously than they otherwise might, at least in part because officials suspect from the intercepted communications that Al Qaeda is planning something big.

In recent months, officials have issued threat alerts regarding nuclear plants, financial institutions and even specific structures like the Seattle Space Needle and the Golden Gate Bridge, even as some counterterrorism experts privately regarded those threats as not based on solid intelligence.

Some officials say the government's new color-coded threat alert system is less useful than the system it replaced, because it is subject to political influences from appointees who are fearful of being criticized if they fail to pass on every possible threat, no matter how remote.

Yet even as the less credible threats have been widely publicized, the more worrisome and credible undercurrent of intercepted communications has not been made public.

In hindsight, analysts now view the pattern of intercepted communications they saw last May, June and July as a sign of the impending attacks. Those intercepts, coming after embassy bombings in Africa and the suicidal bombing of a Navy ship in an Arabian port, were sometimes alarming.

Their references to mass attacks against American interests prompted a series of public alerts against possible terrorist attacks last summer, including one concerning a possible strike over the Fourth of July holiday. Officials said that they never had any evidence that an attack would occur inside the United States, and instead focused most of their attention on possible strikes against American facilities in the Middle East, Europe or Asia.

After the summer holiday passed quietly without any attacks, American analysts were relieved, but still believed that an attack might be coming. However, they lacked any further details of where or when the strike might come, and some officials began to think that the immediate danger might have passed. Now that analysts are seeing a similar pattern of communications intercepts, they say they are determined to avoid a repeat of that mistake.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airseclist; communications; jihadinamerica; terrorwar; warnings
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To: GeneD
The Al Queda either must not understand what they're dealing with or they must genuinely want to go see those virgins in heaven.

Americans are the most risk-aversive people on the planet - freaking out to the extent that they'll pay huge sums to cover even a one day gap in insurance coverage.

And while, for the most part, we're soft, socialist cowards, our special forces and hard core military are not.

Try an experiment and put four of five frogs in a blender, then hit the 'Puree' button. I imagine that's just about what will happen to what's left of Al Queda if another major attack happens on US soil.

21 posted on 05/18/2002 11:00:00 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: aristeides
It probably is months old...and if it wasn't made public the Bush Adminsitration would be baking right now for holding it back. It is a NO WIN SITUATION.
22 posted on 05/18/2002 11:00:10 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Dog
AMEN!
23 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:07 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: GeneD
The best defense in a situation like this is a good offense and Dubya is only going part way toward that end. We'll NEVER end these threats imho until we quit beating around the PC bush and recognize that Islam is the enemy and that we must viciously attack it all around the world.
24 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:11 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: aristeides
Good point...

Could this be our way of telling them ......back off....

Now I wonder what is really in those intercepts that has someone so worried they leaked this or planted this story....

Someone high up wants this out .......fast!

25 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:20 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Principled
Don't we have some "friends" who have no qualms about torture?
26 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:23 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: It'salmosttolate
Don't you find it odd that they announced that? Almost like they wanted the terrorists to know that those planes were leaving...and that there would be less protection. (By the way, those were AWAC planes, not figihters. They were monitoring communications, I believe.)

Now why would Rumsfeld, who won't talk about anything that might risk his people, do that? Hmmm.

I will leave you to your own conclusions, but it helps to THINK a bit, before making a comment. Also, loose lips sink ships.

27 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:33 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: GeneD
If this is true, then is this really the right time to be pulling National Guardsmen away from S.W. border states. I saw an AP report in today's Santa Fe New Mexican that said 378 guardsmen from 4 SW states were being reassigned. Why not just hang out a sign that says "Terrorists--this way" with a big arrow on it?

Here's a link to the paper, story is about halfway down.

28 posted on 05/18/2002 11:01:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: My Favorite Headache
And after the past two days it is better to get everything out before 2 big summer holidays.

I agree with the release of this inofrmation.

29 posted on 05/18/2002 11:02:18 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: GeneD
I don't think we would be seeing this article in the New York Times if it had not been for the orchestrated attack on "What did President Bush know, and when did he know it?" Now he has to make this latest intelligence public before one of the clintonoids in the CIA leaks it. It's really too bad, because, even without details, this will obviously further alert Al Qaeda that their messages are being overheard, and even how much they are being overheard.

The New York Times puts its allegiance to its political agenda over its loyalty to the country, as usual. They would rather see another 9/11 than see Bush remain in ofice, just as they would rather risk the destruction of Israel than see Sharon remain in office.

30 posted on 05/18/2002 11:02:26 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: mewzilla
Please read my reply 27. The same thought process should apply.
31 posted on 05/18/2002 11:03:24 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: wattsmag2
friends = India
32 posted on 05/18/2002 11:04:24 AM PDT by Principled
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To: GeneD
I wonder sometimes if these news stories really reach the proper channels and instead have the effect of crying "wolf!" one too many times.
33 posted on 05/18/2002 11:05:58 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: SamAdams76
I wouldn't overlook another holiday... Memorial Day.
34 posted on 05/18/2002 11:06:47 AM PDT by rintense
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To: GeneD
Keep movin', movin', movin',
Though they're disapprovin',
Keep Al Qaeda movin', rawhide.
Don't try to understand 'em,
Just rope 'em, throw, and brand 'em.
Soon we'll be livin' high and wide.
My heart's calculatin',
My true love will be waitin',
Be waitin' at the end of my ride.

Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em on,
Move 'em on, head 'em up, rawhide!
Head 'em out, ride 'em in,
Ride 'em in, let 'em out,
Cut 'em out, ride 'em in, rawhide!
RAWHIDE!!!

35 posted on 05/18/2002 11:07:18 AM PDT by Barnacle
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To: Principled
I'm sure for the right amount of greenbacks, we could find a whole lot of "friends".
36 posted on 05/18/2002 11:07:18 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: Miss Marple
Mr. Mewzilla made the same point. I disagreed saying that unless border security has suddenly become airtight, we shouldn't be inviting anyone to try anything anywhere at any time. At least not to my mind.
37 posted on 05/18/2002 11:08:02 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: GeneD
Indy 500?? 400,000 people in one spot?

dog has it right("We must pass word to all Arab governments that WHEN a Nuke Plant is attacked or ANY WMD is unleashed on American soil......we will start a systematic destruction of Arab captials beginning with Cairo!!!!")
THE ONLY THING THESE "PEOPLE" UNDERSTAND IS FORCE!!!

38 posted on 05/18/2002 11:09:02 AM PDT by snowtigger
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To: rintense
Memorial Day Indy 500, Baseball Games, NBA Finals etc.
39 posted on 05/18/2002 11:09:50 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: rosebud
"Is it possible that President Clinton is a mole?"

He's more than a "mole".....he's a horses A** working for the enemy.....Where is Eugene McCarthy when you need him?

40 posted on 05/18/2002 11:10:16 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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