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U.S. Intercepting Messages Hinting at a New Attack
The New York Times ^ | 5/18/02 (for editions of 5/19/02) | James Risen and David Johnston

Posted on 05/18/2002 10:31:35 AM PDT by GeneD

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To: 4ourprogeny
The jihadists say they intend to destroy America, and have already started their heinous attacks. They should be pre-empted and their "infrastructure" teminated with extreme prejudice. It is time the formerly sleeping giant ssends what will remain of them to the Paleolithic.
121 posted on 05/18/2002 2:08:37 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Snowy
As silly as his color scheme is to some people, I don't view this latest news as a real threat unless the color is changed to orange or red.

The way our intelligence services operate, I believe orange would coincide with the FAA's alert of flights having been hijacked, and red would coincide with them crashing into the WTC, Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field.

122 posted on 05/18/2002 2:14:00 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: EggsAckley
". Meanwhile, round up the Islamics who fit the PROFILE and get serious with them. And get rid of ALL illegal students."

Deport all of them! Legal & illegal. No more visas. No more Arabs or Muslims in the US.

123 posted on 05/18/2002 2:25:43 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Trust but Verify
I live within 3 miles of where the MLB All-Star game is being played this year. Maybe I'll just leave town for a few days in July to be on the safe side......

I'd stick around and defend my home and family. Our police and law enforcement can always use more eyes and ears. Lock and Load!

124 posted on 05/18/2002 2:28:52 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: right_to_defend
And you could call your airline WPF "When pigs fly", have a pig mascot. I like the idea.
125 posted on 05/18/2002 2:29:03 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: GeneD
Amazing tone for the NYT.
127 posted on 05/18/2002 2:43:57 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: jwalsh07
When the government goes on a profiling spree, looking for "terrorists", they will be looking for more than Islamics. Section 802 of the Us Anti-Patriot act makes that abundently clear.

If they won't seal the borders; if they will welcome those who practice an intertwined religious/political philosophy dedicated to the destruction of our Republic to come here and spread that vile philosophy and propagandize for them, then we should not be asking them to start profiling "terrorists".

The government, and their globalist masters, are using these Islamics and their terrorism to expand their power and suppress all resistance.

The government knows who these people are, and could have expelled them long before they committed anything of consequences, but they didn't. They let it happen to justify gutting the Constitution.

As I tried to tell Principled, there's more to this than meets the eye, and asking the government to do more (via profiling) is just shooting oneself in the foot.

I don't trust the Islamics to reject their philosophy, just because they live in a Western country, and I don't trust the government to root these dangerous people out of our midsts. The government is full of globalists, who realize that they have to do away with nationalism and patriotism in this nation; do away with our Republic, basically, before they can bring their world government oligarchy into being. Terrorism on our own soil is a pretty good way to do this, because it scares so many trusting people into demanding that the government "protect" them, unconcerned about their loss of liberty.

I hope I've been able to explain myself better.

128 posted on 05/18/2002 2:47:27 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: sheik yerbouty
So, if Clinton was recruited in 1969 I assume you mean by the former USSR. Now that they are broken up and our friend in waiting, who is he reporting to? Somehow I doubt this. Clinton loves his big fat A-- too much to risk it being any kind of spy. You gotta have more than psychopathy to betray your country. You have to admit it takes a bit of guts and courage neither of which Prissy Bill has.
129 posted on 05/18/2002 2:53:57 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: MadelineZapeezda
I'm not wanting to be anywhere in the neighborhood if they cook off a dirty nuke. Won't matter how many of us are locked & loaded.
130 posted on 05/18/2002 3:01:07 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: FryingPan101
the pentagon and whatever the 4th plane was targeted to hit
131 posted on 05/18/2002 3:04:11 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: chimera; Lloyd227
In recent months, officials have issued threat alerts regarding nuclear plants, financial institutions and even specific structures like the Seattle Space Needle and the Golden Gate Bridge, even as some counterterrorism experts privately regarded those threats as not based on solid intelligence.

Ping!

132 posted on 05/18/2002 3:05:26 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: snowtigger
Oh God... that's a chilling scenario.
133 posted on 05/18/2002 3:06:00 PM PDT by cgk
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To: Miss marple
I wonder what makes people think the feds aren't profiling. I suppose if they don't see it going on at the airport, they think the CIA/FBI/et al aren't bothering to target middle-eastern operatives? Do people really think that these agencies are out looking for expired visas on Scandinavian octagenarians or freezing assets of Irish au pairs?
134 posted on 05/18/2002 3:06:51 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: GeneD
Profile now. Round em up. Get em out!!!
135 posted on 05/18/2002 3:11:33 PM PDT by reillyoburbank
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To: Cicero
I don't think we would be seeing this article in the New York Times if it had not been for the orchestrated attack on "What did President Bush know, and when did he know it?" Now he has to make this latest intelligence public before one of the clintonoids in the CIA leaks it. It's really too bad, because, even without details, this will obviously further alert Al Qaeda that their messages are being overheard, and even how much they are being overheard.

The New York Times puts its allegiance to its political agenda over its loyalty to the country, as usual. They would rather see another 9/11 than see Bush remain in ofice, just as they would rather risk the destruction of Israel than see Sharon remain in office.

Well said. The lack of maturity among the dims and the pressitudes is astonishing.

If their ilk had been sufficiently powerful in the 1940's, we could be speaking German or Japanese today.

136 posted on 05/18/2002 3:19:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: GretchenEE
Amazing tone for the NYT.

I read in the new New York Sun this week that Jews are starting to boycott the New York Slimes. And that there is a separate boycott of the New York Post by muslim newsstand operators, which is true. At least 2 places I now previously frequented to buy newspapers have refused to carry the Post. Tensions are mounting in NY. I have refused to buy the New York Times or Newsday for several years now, anyway.

137 posted on 05/18/2002 3:22:26 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: GeneD
I think what you will see is additional attacks against American symbols. The terrorists are not overly concerned with killing civilians as much as they are with destroying symbols of America. Civilian deaths are collateral damage. Keep in mind that they destroyed all of the Buddha images & destroyed artworks & historical artifacts in Afganistan. Likewise, they attempted to destroy symbols of American culture and power on Sept 11. Look for them to attempt to destroy the Statue of Liberty, Mt. Rushmore, Hoover Dam, Disney, Cathedrals & churchs and any other historical landmarks & noted great American achievements along with Government buildings. Expect the terrorists to be from "friendly nations" like Saudi Arabia, etc. Perhaps even from Holland and Europe. All of the occurances with the middle eastern folks showing up at water reservoirs, etc. are likely diversionary tactics. The muslim extreemists tend to hold nature (water) as sacred.

Don't expect the Gov't to be there to stop them, they will be overwhelmed with disinformation, spread way to thin and unable to react quickly enough. Therefore each and every American must be prepared, we must be observant! Train yourself now, get professional firearms training from Frontsight, Gunsite, Lethal Force Institute, Thunder Ranch or similar training facilities. Always have a means of reliable communication with you at all times, be properly armed at all times that you can legally possess a weapon and that means carrying a concealed gun everywhere even to church like I do. When you can't have a gun or knife, have other weapon devices, a cane, a long strong shoe string in your pocket, a nylon belt, a sharpened credit card, strong metal pen, kubaton, metal flashlight etc. Have a means of recording the event, a video camera, digital camera, disposable camera and a notepad & pen, write down anything you consider strange. Wherever you go, ALWAYS be in condition YELLOW, look at everyone around you constantly, get out of the daydream distracted mode and always be vigilent! Record and report anything that you genuinely consider out of the ordinary or suspicious. Look at how someone is dressed, how they walk, what they are doing. Remember, terrorists don't wear big red "T"'s they will blend in, they will be friendly, polite and will avoid drawing attention to themselves. Look at everyone in your area while you are doing your thing.

Remember this, you and you alone are responsible for your life and safety, make a commitment and take steps now to protect yourself, remember who you survive for.

Your life is merely a statistic to the government.


139 posted on 05/18/2002 3:36:34 PM PDT by chuknospam
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To: Principled
Control the GD borders and quit handing out thousands of visas to young arab males from hostile countries like SA.
140 posted on 05/18/2002 3:37:43 PM PDT by Righty1
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