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To: piasa
One thing that bin Laden underestimated was that, although there are internal squabbles, when we were attacked--and, according to one of his videos, this attack "succeeded" at a far greater scale than he expected--the country came together under its president, and that president was far more stronger than the previous adminstration, knew what to do and did it. Had his 9/11 attack had been on the scale of the first WTC bombing, I don't know how we would've responded, but after the WTC I, bombings of our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, and the bombing of the Cole, I don't think bin Laden would've been quite so confident that a smaller scale bombing on our soil would have resulted in a Clinton-like surgical strike, but would have resulted in a full-scale war. He probably thought that his pals in the Pakistani ISI would've warned him in advance of any missle strikes on his training camps (which he quickly could've abandoned before the missles landed). He didn't expect sustained bombings and an invasion.

But what bin Laden wanted--and al Qaeda still wants--is a pan-Islamic state-just listen to Zacarias Moussaoui's ramblings in court. That's why the threat from al Qaeda will continue until they're wiped out.

12 posted on 05/18/2002 7:19:54 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw,SPAR, TRAVIS McGEE
While the USA backed the establishment of an islamic state in Bosnia, islamic/taliban fighters were allowed to fight against the Serbs in the civil war which torn apart that country. The Iranians delivered them and the Saudis paid for their weapons!!

It seems that some of those same talibans ARE STILL IN BOSNIA....an Israeli minister told the Croatians that, in the opinion of the Israeli govt., BOSNIA IS NOTHING BUT A TALIBAN CELL IN EUROPE.

You can make that a ditto for Kosovo and the KLA.....islamic terror network formed right in the Balkans.....LOOK OUT EUROPE, those jihadists are right under your noses!!!!!

17 posted on 05/18/2002 8:07:56 AM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Catspaw
If you're the type to go around beating dogs, never try to beat a big dog without checking to see if the other end of its leash is tied.

Bin Laden forgot to check that one. Clinton had our military on a huge leash, and he did it on purpose. Clinton wanted, more than anything else, to be a wartime president. He knew what he was doing, he knew it would make us look vulnerable and would likely provoke an attack. He knew as well as we do that this country would survive and would unify even behind him in order to seek out anyone who hit us at home. So when Clinton muttered this past week or so that 'this wasn't like WW2 or anything,' he revealed himself once again for the scoundrel he is. Unlike any sane individual who wouldn't want the job Bush has right now, unlike Bush himself who is probably thinking 'what in the heck came over me to take this job and get old before my time,' Clinton would throw away American lives in a heartbeat to get back in the oval office and be FDR the 2nd. Bubba was throwing away people's lives literally and through slander throughout his presidency. He was willing to do anything it took to set us up. Clinton tried to hamstring the dog and tie him up for good measure, so that he could be the one to set it loose when he decided the time was right, and receive adoration and laurel wreaths... and babes.

The election was when the leash was gnawed through, one vote at a time. So here bin Laden and friends come with a stick, and broke it across our nose... and only then realized that Clinton wasn't holding the leash. In fact, they noticed that what was on the other end of that leash was worse than the dog...

There were millions of Americans with bared teeth. And among them were a fair measure of allies to back them up.

Al Qeada can't run fast enough or dig deep enough now, because Americans want al Qeada, and everyone who is linked with al Qeada... dead. I saw the Taliban leaders' and Arafat's eyes when he got the news. That was an 'oh shiite' moment for sure. I can imagine bin Laden's eyes were just as big; I can imagine the looks on Osama's followers' faces when they realized they had bought into a myth. Clinton had inadvertantly set them up too.

33 posted on 05/18/2002 12:58:14 PM PDT by piasa
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