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Why I Am Angry About the Bush Revelations
NewsMax ^ | 05/17/2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 05/17/2002 8:54:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: ArneFufkin
Yes it does. I have no clue as to what it is about. But even the name of it is enough to send shivers up my spine. Why do we need a Cabinet level office to provide Homeland Security? Don't we have armed citizens and police and fire personel to do that? I see this office, maybe not during Bush's term, but in the future, becoming the excuse to take away even more rights.
81 posted on 05/18/2002 10:03:32 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: sneakypete
By keeping bin Laden alive though, our government can continue to butcher the Constitution and take away our freedoms under the banner of "Security." The way our government was originally set up, our elected leaders were accountable to the people. When exactly did we lose that?

I believe that Clinton should be held accountable for his nonaction in this whole mess, but I believe that our current government should be held accountable as well for its inaction of preventing 9/11.

82 posted on 05/18/2002 10:11:46 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
why does Bush continue to trust Clinton apointee George Tenet? If there was one guy who could take the fall for this it's the Director of Central Intelligence. The man doesn't even have a background, at least ostensibly, in the Intelligence community. Would it really be so bad to, at this juncture, bring in a new (republican nominated) DCI?

I don't think so.

83 posted on 05/18/2002 10:40:39 AM PDT by majic12
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To: TLBSHOW
>>Given the opportunity, the Democrats will always go for the jugular, while the Republicans will always try to take the high road.<<.....You are either joking or just arrived from another planet.
84 posted on 05/18/2002 10:51:30 AM PDT by orfisher
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To: orfisher
Just the truth
85 posted on 05/18/2002 11:46:53 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Horatio Bunce
Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, there is NO state religion, this isn't a " Christian " country, the FFs used not only the King James Bible and Protestant ( Judeo-Christian ) morqal / ethical / cultural ideals, but also Masonic and Enlightenment ideals.

Your " knowledge " and suppossed research, aren't up to even the " average " norm, on FR. What you're throwing out, oh so arrogantly and pompously, has been done to death and with far more intelligence , as well as with greater sophistication for more than 4 years here. Trite, boring, numbingly boring, and devoid of substance , is what your debut postings actually are.

You'll find a small, but extremely vocal group here, who share your views. The rest of us SHALL reply to you with refutation, and you'd either better get used to it, or leave. This isn't a 5 year old's " tea party " for her dolls . If you can't do any better than this, then you are going to have a vry large number of posts to ignore. Personally, I don't care if you ignore my posts at all. LOL The lurkers still get to see other postions, and that's why I'll post to you.

No, I didn't " blame " Clinton and his administration, for not preventing the attack on the USS Cole, the embassies, nor even the first WTC attack. I blamed him and them for NOT doing anything worthwhile, afterwards ! I blamed Clinton for NOT going to the funerals of the first WTC attack and treating it as just a " criminal " manner , instead of what it really was ... an attack by a foreign terrorist group.

Real life isn't a fiction novel a T.V. show, nor a movie, where things are neatly tied up in a matter of a very short time, and the intelligence groups are clever, wise, all knowing, and came come to spectacuar conclusions, with only a few haphazard clues. Even during WW II , with broken codes, we didn't stop many horrors , that we knew about prior to their occurrence .

You're in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over your depth here, dear. :-)

86 posted on 05/18/2002 2:40:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Horatio Bunce
Here we go again............ ! Sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh.

Name every single " right " that you have lost , since the ay you were born, and then, seperately, the ones that you have lost due to the Patriot Act, and the institution of Homeland Defense ( which is NOT a cabinet post, FYI . So much for your " knowledge " ), headed by Ridge.

87 posted on 05/18/2002 2:48:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
How much beaurocratic red tape did our founders ever have to go through in order to get medical attention? How many forms did they have to file and credit checks they had to go through to buy a horse? When was someone ever arrested for owning a non-licensed weapon in our pioneer days? Or worse yet, how many peple did federal agents kill because private citizens owned non-registered weapons?

Days after the 9/11 attacks, Bush sought permission to arrest suspected terrorists. That in itself was not bad. However, the problem lies with the fact that these suspected terrorists would not be given the right to a fair trial by a jury of their peers, but instead be put in front of a military tribunal.

In the state that I live in, I am no longer allowed to hold my cell phone and drive at the same time. What will be next, no more radio? Will I not be allowed to talk to fellow passengers?

Our government has gone way beyond its Constitutional boundaries in the name of security. Clinton did it, Bush is doing it.

And you must not have been watching Bush's speech right after Sept. 11, when he made the announcement of a new Cabinet level office known as Homeland Security. He did not propose it in his speech, but said it was already set up. That in itself is scary.

Just because a Republican is in the White House should not constitute that we should be less wary of him. I believe we should be more critical if anything.

88 posted on 05/18/2002 3:31:19 PM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
By keeping bin Laden alive though, our government can continue to butcher the Constitution and take away our freedoms under the banner of "Security."

Yup,if terrorism didn't exist,they would have to invent it.

The way our government was originally set up, our elected leaders were accountable to the people. When exactly did we lose that?

With the passage of the "Civil Wrongs Act of 1964",also known of as "The Lawyers Full-Employment Act". It actually started under King Franklin,but LBJ made it official.

89 posted on 05/18/2002 4:44:05 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: ArneFufkin
I agree completely.
90 posted on 05/18/2002 5:35:18 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: LloydofDSS
I don't think his strategy of "changing the tone" is working. As it has been said many times, trying to deal honorably with a scoundrel is a wasted effort.

It may not be working against the democrats but it sure works on me. I find myself going to bat to protect him like a mother hen - I think since I know he will just take the abuse without wasting time fighting back as he continues plugging along doing his job. If he was battling it out with them - I would probably just watch.

91 posted on 05/19/2002 10:58:42 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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