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Michael Moore: Guns for "containing slavery"
Independent ^ | 5/17/02 | Independent

Posted on 05/17/2002 3:22:16 PM PDT by moyden

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To: moyden
Moore is a national celebrity?

Anyone of you think he has something in common with Gus Hall?

41 posted on 05/18/2002 10:20:17 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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42 posted on 05/18/2002 10:24:16 AM PDT by VOA
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To: moyden
What's truly ironic and tragic is that Moore is so close to the truth but still doesn't see it.

Yes, sure, slaveowners had guns, and feared their slaves, and feared their slaves owning guns. So what's Moore's solution? To disarm everybody - in short, to put us all in the position of those slaves.

43 posted on 05/18/2002 10:25:40 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: moyden; bang_list
Moore has it completely backwards!

Racist Politicians Want Your Guns

Common Sense

Racist Politicians Want Your Guns

Commentary by Richard W. Stevens, JD Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

What's the dirty little secret behind "gun control" in America? Here are some hints: Working forever without pay. Whipping and torture. Buying and selling of human beings. Hate. Fear. Suspicion. Terrorism.

These hints recall the evil days of slavery, and post-Civil War periods of rule by terror. Those who would own human beings as slaves created "gun control" laws to keep the power in their own hands. They could not keep African slaves and their American descendants under lifelong control without making sure the slaves remained unarmed.

Free black people had served honorably and with distinction in the Revolutionary War. Yet under a 1792 federal law, black men could not serve as part of the state militias. In Louisiana, slaves were forbidden to use a firearm even in self-defense. In South Carolina, slaves could not possess guns without a master's permission. Black persons, whether slave or free, had to have a license or a judge's permission before they could carry a firearm in Florida and Delaware. For black people, guns were banned entirely in several states. Florida l aws empoweredwhite "citizen patrols" to invade and search blacks' homes for guns or other weapons. None of these policies applied, of course, to white people.

After the Civil War, "gun control" laws kept black people "in their place." Blacks had to obtain licenses to have guns in Mississippi and Louisiana. Alabama banned all guns in 1866 -- for blacks. Later, Alabama and Texas placed huge taxes on the sale of handguns, which effectively banned guns for the poor.

Tennessee and Arkansas banned the inexpensive handguns which were the only types that poor black people could afford. South Carolina banned all handguns, except those for police and deputies.

Those American "gun control" laws worked: they disarmed most black people. The Ku Klux Klan and others could freely terrorize black families without fear. Unarmed victims couldn't shoot back. Lynch law ruled, and claimed at least 3,446 lives up through the end of the Civil Rights movement.

Gun registration. Licensing. Judicial permit. Police approval. High taxes on guns and ammunition. Selective gun bans. Total gun bans. Police "gun sweeps" of private homes. Sound familiar?

The "gun control" lobby advocates all of these policies today. These policies historically worked in the past to disarm a targeted people. These policies will have the same effect now.

Although the gun prohibitionists have dropped the race hate rhetoric, they use the tried-and-true methods of the slave owners and Klansmen. The same means must achieve the same end: control of the unarmed people.

The slave owners feared that armed slaves would not long tolerate their condition. Modern politicians act like they have the same fear. Are we peaceful American citizens the modern day slaves who must be kept in our place?

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Common Sense appears in the first issue of each month of Shotgun News. Look for it, read it, enjoy it, tell others about it.

Sincerely,

The liberty crew at JPFO.

44 posted on 05/18/2002 10:30:31 AM PDT by nralife
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To: moyden
Michael Mooron spoke at Cornell recently. I was at both his talk and Ann Coulter's. You can imagine the difference. Mr. Mooron's was a liberal lovefest. A few conservatives asked challenging questions in a civilized manner. They were met with a string of foul language and name calling from Mr. Mooron as well a boo's and shouting from the audience.
45 posted on 05/18/2002 10:35:42 AM PDT by BigRedQuark
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To: Dr. Frank
"But I tended to believe as I got older that guns aren't a good thing to have around," Moore frowns."

Maybe that is because you are one of those "Stupid White Men... and other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation!" Mr. Michael Moore!

46 posted on 05/18/2002 10:44:10 AM PDT by sinclair
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To: moyden
"We were satirising how parents teach their kids to shoot guns," he recalls.

How very disappointing it must have been for Michael when the Columbine parents turned out not to be CCW holding NRA members, but gun control advocates.

47 posted on 05/18/2002 10:46:45 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: ArneFufkin
The more copies he "sells", the more money for Rupert Murdoch. Mikey Moron has to be happy about that!
48 posted on 05/18/2002 1:14:35 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RandallFlagg
Your post got me to start singing "Mother-In-Law, Mother-In-Law" in my head...
49 posted on 05/18/2002 1:16:44 PM PDT by weegee
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To: BigRedQuark
They were met with a string of foul language and name calling from Mr. Mooron...

The hostile response was there to make the conservatives remain in hiding. "First Amendment" is a National Democratic-Socialist trademarked phrase, don't you know. You were lucky that you weren't sued for infringement.

"You have the right to free speech; that's if you're not dumb enough to actually try it."

Sponsorship slogan: "The First Amendment, brought to you courtesy of the Second Amendment"

50 posted on 05/18/2002 1:22:30 PM PDT by weegee
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To: moyden
I almost feel sorry for Moore, imagining what a self-hating guilt-ridden SOB he must be. One thing I've noticed in life is that often the people who go on the most about "peace and love" are whiny and annoying to be around.
51 posted on 05/18/2002 1:34:20 PM PDT by bleudevil
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To: weegee
Now, don't anyone get me wrong. I think my Liberal In-Laws are good people. They'll bash Conservatives and Republicans a lot around me. I just ignore them, bite my tongue, and tell myself that they're a product of the Klintoonian brainwashing. They haven't yet tried to debate any topics with me, but when it happens, I'll be ready. You know that when THAT happens, they might think too highly of me anymore. I'm amazed they liked me in the first place. I met their Daughter when I was unemployed and fighting to make ends meet, and she took a chance and trusted me. Now I make $60,000 a year and their Daughter is a stay-at-home Mom, something she's always wanted to be.
Besides, I've successfully shown their Daughter the horrors of Liberalism; perhaps that's payback enough....
52 posted on 05/18/2002 6:44:54 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: nralife
Southern boys yeh heah the jews for the preservation of fire arms are blaming you for gun control. Southerners be bad people to this very dah!
53 posted on 05/19/2002 2:50:34 AM PDT by bok
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To: piasa
I guess it never occured to this guy that if Africans had had guns, their tribal leaders and the arabs wouldn't have been able to enslave them and sell them to overseas shippers in the first place.

Interesting point. However, if the blacks had had guns, and were never sold into slavery, then they would all still be living in Zaire and Nigeria, and their decendents would not now be living in America. Just how many of todays black decendents want to live in Nigeria instead of America?

54 posted on 05/19/2002 7:28:39 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: RandallFlagg
You wouldn't believe how hard it was to bite my tongue!!!!

I'll bet that was a titanic struggle.

I have an aunt who spews this crap, too. She knows I'm a conservative and tries to bait me when we're at family dinners and other outings. I usually don't bite because a family dinner is place for light conversation, not a loud political roundtable. The couple of times that I've engaged her, I went for the throat and damn near made her cry. I'm not bragging, she had the major disadvantage trying to defend Klinton.

55 posted on 05/19/2002 7:36:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Ya know, it just doesn't do any good debating lefties in the family. Especially in-laws; they might come in handy someday...
56 posted on 05/19/2002 8:04:11 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: moyden
IF no one else has said it yet, let me have the honor: MICHAEL MOORE IS A TURD.
57 posted on 05/20/2002 6:46:32 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: gundog
"This clown "hoves into view" at about 1500 yards."

The last time that I read about something that "hoves into view", it was pertaining to Napoleonic War Line-of-Battle ships.

Then, again, if you think of it, the girth of an old-style 100-gunner just about fits the silhouette of Michael Moore.

58 posted on 05/20/2002 6:55:31 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: MarkL
Bingo. As someone who's experienced kitchen fires and auto collisions, and was ready for them, I also intend to be ready when/if someone comes to do harm to me and/or take my stuff. But if I was a criminal, I'd be looking at Larda** Moore's house, now that I know his only weapon isn't loaded.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

59 posted on 05/20/2002 7:00:37 AM PDT by wku man
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To: moyden
to believe in not only the gun, but using violence to get what we want and enforce a class system, so the have-nots stay there

I think this quote reveals more than he wanted to. If we flip this around, we see that they view our guns as the only impediment to these commies implementing their socialist dream and stripping the achievers of everything they earn.

60 posted on 05/20/2002 7:07:57 AM PDT by MrB
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