[sinkspur]

How can anyone in good conscience remain in a church which seems to have perversions, mafia elements, corruption, luxurious living at the expense of whomever . .

That sentiment pretty much includes all churches.

[Aliska]

That sentiment pretty much includes all churches.

Yes, you are absolutely right about that. Some of those tv ministries are more disgusting than the luxury in the Catholic church hierarchy and wealthy laity. Some of them have fallen into ridiculous heresies and false teachings.

The protestant churches don't have much appeal and I don't see how any of them can have valid orders of any sort. I don't see how you can just ordain your own ministers starting from scratch.