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To: sinkspur
I cannot believe that you can love others as God has loved you unless you first love God. That is the order of the commandments and that order is what is lacking in the presentation these days.With a better understanding of the first commandment the second becomes clear and the love we are called to is nothing like that fuzzy little warm feeling that we desire to experience.

I believe one of the major mistakes of Vatican II was forgetting the Baltimore Catechism and looking to "experience" God.He gave us a mind to know Him,a heart to love Him and a body to serve Him.Once we get that straight,its pretty easy. I must admit it did take me a while to get it straight after dallying with the new church and rationalizing sinful behavior,I woke up and realized that what I was taught as a child was Truth,I had been reprogrammed and it took a big thwack upside the head to bring me back.And,for that I am grateful to God.

177 posted on 05/16/2002 11:43:23 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
1 John 4:10-11 "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and set his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
187 posted on 05/16/2002 11:53:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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