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To: Poohbah
And 187 doomed the GOP in California, because the Hispanics who had NOT cared a whit about politics suddenly got convinced that the next step was GOP sponsorship of the KKK (much of the Prop 187 advertising I saw looked like Tom Metzger and David Duke were the campaign architects).

Wow, talk about revisionism. Speaking as a Los Angeleno, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Prop. 187 was one of the most popular ballot initiatives in the state's history.

The problem with the GOP and 187 was that the leaders at the national level: Newt (serial philanderer), Kemp (talk about a big-tent dumb jock) and Bennett (the man who gave us the 1989 Assault Rifle ban) all conspired to kill the 187 steam roller that was building steam after 187 won in California.

Prop. 187 was targeted at ILLEGAL activities and because it was struck down and not enforced by Davis California is now starring at a a 25 BILLION dollar deficet this year alone.

Also let us not forget that 187 had support in both the Hispanic and Black votting communities, about 51% of hispanic voters and over 60% of Black voters supported Prop 187 so stop with the disinformation campaign that it was a KKK plan to oppress minorities.

If the GOP is in trouble over immigration it is because they backed the ILLEGAL ALIEN constituency.

36 posted on 05/16/2002 1:22:06 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: Kobyashi1942
Then explain why Republicans got their clocks cleaned in the 1996, 1998, and 2000 elections in California.

Sorry, but 187 didn't do us much good among the black population. They're still reliably Democratic.

38 posted on 05/16/2002 1:26:52 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Kobyashi1942
Wow, talk about revisionism. Speaking as a Los Angeleno, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Prop. 187 was one of the most popular ballot initiatives in the state's history.

Yes, it was very popular with the electorate of 1994. The electorate in 1996-2000 was VERY different, thanks in part to Prop 187. The Democrats were able to register a bunch of previously apathetic people who (wrongly) felt that the GOP was dominated by a bunch of night-riders.

Also let us not forget that 187 had support in both the Hispanic and Black votting communities, about 51% of hispanic voters and over 60% of Black voters supported Prop 187 so stop with the disinformation campaign that it was a KKK plan to oppress minorities.

I didn't say it WAS a KKK plan. I said that the imagery used in some of the ads I saw in San Diego looked like it had been planned by David Duke and Tom Metzger. For someone who demands that English be the sole language spoken in the US, you have a really poor grasp of it. Maybe you should take some remedial reading courses.

145 posted on 05/16/2002 4:04:31 PM PDT by Poohbah
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