[Charlotte Corday]

I think that putting a lid on any further illegal immigration is a policy that can win elections in this country. Big time. I doubt if more than ten percent of the voters are in favor of illegal immigration.

Every time there is an amnesty, its authors swear that this is absolutely, positively the last one. Yeah, right.

And when I see an amnesty plan come out of the White House that has similar features to what Morris suggests - rather than being just another giveaway - then I'll feel the time has come for constructive engagement rather than sniping.

[Poohbah]

I think that putting a lid on any further illegal immigration is a policy that can win elections in this country. Big time. I doubt if more than ten percent of the voters are in favor of illegal immigration.

True, but most of that opposition is in the theme of being opposed to sin and in favor of motherhood. However, most prostitutes are mothers.

When you get into the nitty-gritty details of what opposing illegal immigration will cost Joe Average, in terms of money and personal convenience, Joe Average will turn right around and tell you you're out of your mind, and no WAY will he buy off on that.

Welcome to America, where everyone wants to go to Heaven, but very few are willing to buy a ticket.

[hchutch]

Remember what happened to the GOP in California over that? They were pretty much relegated to a sideshow with the 1996 and 1998 elections. As a result we got Gray Davis, and at least THREE major gun-control laws.

Right now, the thing to do is to amend Bush's 245(i) proposal to something that reflects the setup Morris proposed. That's the best you can do, and if the Dems oppose it, you can nail them hard, because you're setting these people up to succeed in this country, and they're trying to get them hooked onto the dependency cycle.