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To: CajunPrince
You will also notice the difference between the 1775 session where they referred to themselves as Colonies and the 1776 session where they called themselves States How did that happen? Could it have been the act of Congress a few months before the Declaration that called for all the "Colonies" to form State Governments with new officers and new constitutions?

Congress predates the States and therefore, the Nation predates the States.

I'll ask again. If the States were sovereign entities as the Lost Cause Myth claims, why didn't each state send its own diplomats and representatives to Europe? Why didn’t the CSA do that? That is what the Colonies did before 1776. Each appointed their own representatives to lobby for them, but after 1776, ony one was chosen to represent all. Where’s the “state sovereignty” in that?

32 posted on 05/16/2002 2:28:41 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Just out of curiosity, who, exactly, were those members of the Congress that called upon the colonies to form their legislatures?

Oh yeah, that's right! The colonies already had legislatures that sent designated represenatives to the Continental Congress.

54 posted on 05/16/2002 5:25:53 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Ditto
Intellectuals are re-examining Lincoln and all of the issues surrounding your "lost cause myth" because the Federal Government is becoming more corrupt via special interest groups and Socialist/Fascist-leaning politicians and less representative of the people.

States are being forced to adopt laws or have tax dollars withheld that were collected from them to begin with. States are seeing the Federal Government legislate against their interests; restrict use on more and more State-owned and private property; and the list of abuses goes on.

Shame on us for trying to figure out how we ended up in such a mess and trying to figure out how to get back to what the original 13 States intended.

The question becomes, if you agree with Lincoln's actions, would you support similar actions against a State or collection of States in the 21st century? Do you like the idea of a powerful, central government? Even though such a government is less representative of the individual?

Suppose, the entire SouthWest decided that erecting a fence on the border was in their best interests; the Feds were ignoring them and they realized the only legal way to erect that fence was remove their States from the US so that their borders were not "federal" property? Would you support armed forces being used to keep those States from forming their own government? I wouldn't. I'd rather see Washington start respecting the rights and needs of individuals and the States they live in. If it doesn't, there's going to be a whole host of issues that eventually lead to this Country's implosion.

235 posted on 05/18/2002 3:37:55 AM PDT by Abundy
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