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To: billbears
I'm just always amazed with how heavly invested the neo-confederate psyche is in the Lost Cause myths. So many completly internalize it and that tendency always sneeks out in the "we and you" accusations. You weren't there and neither was I and if your "ancestors" were in the South 140 years ago, there is anywhere from a 30%-70% chance, depending on which part of the south they were in, that they were loyal Unionists who had no use for the slaveocrat thugs.

And what about this?

I am from their blood and I consider their fight for freedom from the tyranny of Washington to be just as important, if not more important, today than it was then

Are you saying that you now support disunion and are prepared for violent overthrow of Federal authority if necessary? If it's worse than what your "ancestors" faced, and you consider them to have done the right thing, where stand you today?

28 posted on 05/16/2002 2:02:32 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
You weren't there and neither was I and if your "ancestors" were in the South 140 years ago, there is anywhere from a 30%-70% chance, depending on which part of the south they were in, that they were loyal Unionists who had no use for the slaveocrat thugs.

Well in all actuality it is not 30-70%. From what I have found so far, more than a few of my relatives fought for the South(3 died, one in the non existant, never talked about, killed more prisoners than the South, northern prison camps) and only one who had any leanings to the north but apparently did not fight for the damnyankees. So, yes, I do feel direct ties to the South for men that stood up for what they believed.

As for your charge of a violent overthrow of Federal authority, no I am not in favor of that. The federal government has disappeared and has been replaced by a national government. But in either case, the South tried to secede quietly and Constitutionally. The immediate cause was abe's little foray into sovereign territory not belonging to the United States that started the war. If he would have peaceably withdrawn his troops from Fort Sumter, there would not have been a war. But admittedly Davis made a tactical error

67 posted on 05/16/2002 7:37:12 PM PDT by billbears
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