[Reagan Man]

Ron Paul is a libertarian, you fool. He uses the Republican Party to get elected. And he's no conservative.

Oh, I've got ideas!

Libertarians have no ideas. Libertarians have no political strategy and thereby, can't get elected to officies of public trust. The people don't trust libertarians. The Libertarian Party is void of any rational, logical or substantive ideas. The LP agenda is extremist.

Libertarianism is dead!

[tpaine]

Emptyheaded rhetoric.

[Mark Bahner]

Ron Paul is a libertarian, you fool. He uses the Republican Party to get elected. And he's no conservative.

Heh, heh, heh! Looks like YOU'RE the fool! (Again. Better get used to it!)

In the Conservative Index, posted by The New American Magazine...which "rightwing2" assures me is the DEFINITIVE rating system for conservatives, Ron Paul virtually always finishes near the top.

Ron Paul...the prototypical conservative

From that post:

TOP "TEN" CONSERVATIVE LIST based on 2001 Conservative Index scores published in The New American magazine:

US House

1. Rep. Tancredo (R-CO) 95%

2. Rep. Paul (R-TX) (former Libertarian) 92%

3. Rep. Schaefer (R-CO) 90%

4. Rep. Hostettler (R-IN) 88%

5. Rep. Royce (R-CA) 84%

6. Rep. Rohrbacher (R-CA) 83%

7. Rep. Sensenbrenner (R-WI) 81%

8. Rep. Duncan (R-TN) 79%

9. Rep. Barr (R-GA) Rep. Goode (R-VA) (former Democrat) Rep. Pombo (R-CA) all tied for 9th place with a 78% conservative rating.

US Senate

1. Sen. John Kyl (R-AZ) 74%

2. Sen. Jesse Helms (R-NC) 72%

3. Sen. Robert Smith (R-NH), Sen. James Inhofe & Sen Voinovich (R-OH) 70%

4. Sen. Strom Thurmond 69% (former Democrat)

5. Sen Phil Gramm (R-TX), Sen. Campbell (R-CO) (both former Democrats) & Sen. Frank Murkowski at 67%

6. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS), Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) & Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) at 65%

Read it and Freep! You apparently don't know your conservatives! That comes from you not recognizing that virtually NO Republicans are interested in the goal that you SAY you are striving for...returning the government to the size it was prior to the New Deal. (You certainly won't get there with the federal War on Drugs, by the way. As was pointed out, federal laws against marijuana are NEW DEAL laws. So I guess FDR is your fave, after all.)

[Mark Bahner]

The Libertarian Party is void of any rational, logical or substantive ideas.

Then I guess Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were "void of any rational, logical, or substantive ideas." Because they were FARRRR closer to being Libertarians than Republicans! (In fact, the founders revolted against a government that was far less intrusive than the current federal government that Republicans are running.)