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Libertarians Advocate Drug Legalization: Recipe For Escalating Societal Decay
GOPUSA.COM ^ | May.16,2002 | Carol Devine-Molin

Posted on 05/16/2002 11:22:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Mark Bahner
So the entire government is corrupt and the American people are a bunch of fools and idiots. We have idiots on the USSC, idiots in Congress and an idiot for President. But you support the writings contained in a fictional book by George Orwell called, "Animal Farm". A satire on Stalinism and the Russian revolution, as your basis for condemning the US government. What outrageous and outlandish rhetoric.

I've read the Constitution and a good deal of the Federalist Papers and the anti-Federalist Papers, as well as much of the private papers of Jefferson, Madison, Washington and others.

Nowhere in the Constitution, is anything mentioned about any of thsese historical papers. My point was and still is, the US Constitution, is the only lawful document, that guides the Congress in its legislative process for making law. There is no other historical papers that have any direct bearing, or association, on what the Constitution specifically states. The Constitution remains, a stand alone governing document, from which all subsequent written law is based on. If the Founding Fathers wanted the people to have their full understanding and interpretation of the Constitution, they should have spelled out precisely what they meant the document to mean.

I support much of the original intentions of the what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the Constitution, however, that doesn't make these so-called, associated documents, relevent to the current state of affairs.

242 posted on 05/16/2002 5:37:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: weikel
Legalize drugs and let the crackheads die problem solved.

LOL...don't go all touchy feely on us!

243 posted on 05/16/2002 5:40:29 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Reagan Man
Legalization of drugs would increase substance abuse, especially among youth, and would cause social pathologies to flourish to an even greater extent than they are flourishing now.

Bottom line end of story. This is why I oppose changing our laws concerning illegal drugs.

244 posted on 05/16/2002 5:43:43 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: BikerNYC
>>I'm tired of using government inefficiency to solve this problem.<<.....Studies have shown that all the money spent on advertising to disuade kids from using drugs was a complete failure.
245 posted on 05/16/2002 5:44:01 PM PDT by orfisher
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To: Reagan Man
With that ridiculous remark, any credibility in your argument, just went out the window.

Oh, wow, the New York boy is quite the wit. While I'm driving to work in my pickup truck out here in flyover country, listening to the local CW station play Jim Stafford's Wildwood Weed, I remember how "society" mirrors the government's opinion that marijuana is a public health hazard right up there with heroin and PCP.

246 posted on 05/16/2002 5:51:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Legalization of drugs would increase substance abuse, especially among youth, and would cause social pathologies to flourish to an even greater extent than they are flourishing now.

Bottom line end of story. This is why I oppose changing our laws concerning illegal drugs.

I agree with you. Also strongly support our 2nd amendment rights to keep and bear firearms. (FMCDH)

247 posted on 05/16/2002 5:52:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: tacticalogic
Oh, wow, the New York boy is quite the wit.

You've got me confused with someone else. I live in Colorado, bucko and drive a pickup too. You fool.

248 posted on 05/16/2002 5:55:34 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Mark Bahner
Ever notice that no one ever shows up to defend the Commerce Clause on spotted owl or freon threads? Just drug threads. It's almost Pavlovian.
249 posted on 05/16/2002 5:58:18 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
Amen to your defense of the Second Amendment.

The Tenth Amendment could use some defending as well.

The powers not granted to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the People.

250 posted on 05/16/2002 6:02:47 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Reagan Man
Exactly. Our Constitution was founded on the principles that the people had a moral compass. Taken out of that context it's a meaningless piece of paper. Libertarians do not believe in the Constitution any more than the libs do.
251 posted on 05/16/2002 6:05:06 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Libertarians do not believe in the Constitution any more than the libs do.

YES!!!!!!!

252 posted on 05/16/2002 6:08:22 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Had you pegged as a New Yorker. Apologies to you. Sympathies to Colorado. New York deserves it anyway.
253 posted on 05/16/2002 6:13:56 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
In all honesty, I'm an ex-Newyorker. I left after college in the mid-1970`s and have never looked back. Except for an occasional family vacation, funeral or wedding.
254 posted on 05/16/2002 6:20:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
Get the hats folks!!! Forget the WOD, they now produce 'religous experience' electronically!!! They can stimulate various regions of the brain to produce many different sensations, with coils of wire! (pleasure,pain,dog,fear,agression,anxiety) This is cool if 'they' agree with your belief system, but what if they don't? Sci-Fi is here now, no need for drugs! Better ban electronic decives that emit _any_ EMR just to be safe! (the levels used for brain stimulation are teeny weeny amounts) Let me go on record saying, I think it is my business what I do with my body,brain, and thoughts, not yours, not 'your' government's/GOD's. As I understand it, HE respects the right NOT to believe and accept the consecuences HE deems fit. But if I infringe on your _rights_, use what is left of your second amendment rights to rectify THAT. What will you do when O2 sniffing gains _more_ momentum??? It absolutely produces different thought patterns!!! (It shall now become criminal to posess oxygen in any concentration greater than can be found on the surface of the Earth in it's natural form without fed & state license) Far Left and far Right always scream loudest about the 'other' zealots. I hate 'em both and they hate me. That's fair! I have seen lives ruined by drugs,alcohol,religion,politics,resentment,hate,food,whatever. It is their RIGHT to fail in that manner if they so choose. The USA began as a place where people understood this, but since it has become everyone elses business/problem/responsibility. All men are created equal, but the moment of creation is billions of years in the past.
255 posted on 05/16/2002 6:38:05 PM PDT by Hermes37
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To: Reagan Man
The one question that has dogged me for years is this: If drugs are so bad and will lead this country to Hell, with a chorus of demons serenading us......why is it that the US was decidedly more free and so very dynamic in the days when "drugs" were legal and Coke had cocaine? I'm talking about up to 80 years or so ago.

Is it really just a popular sentiment, encouraged by the successors to the teetotaling temperance bitty's, that has driven this issue to annoyance?

It seems likely.

256 posted on 05/16/2002 6:49:49 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: Reagan Man
Non-violent drug abusers need treatment, not jail and a criminal record.
Violent criminals (i.e. Drug dealers who also: Steal, Murder, Assault, etc...) already have laws on the books that put them in jail. If there were less non-violent offenders, they wouldn't be back on the street in just a few years, either...
257 posted on 05/16/2002 6:56:07 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Oh Yeah... and just exactly who is it finally sticking up for your rights -- FOR the Constitution...
Rick Stanley IS - the R's and D's haven't for years...
You want to own a gun? Then vote Libertarian...
http://www.stanley2002.org
The ONLY one willing to fight the good fight for our rights.
258 posted on 05/16/2002 7:03:15 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Hermes37
They can stimulate various regions of the brain to produce many different sensations, with coils of wire!

Paging Louie Wu. Your droin is ready for pickup.

259 posted on 05/16/2002 7:12:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
Correction - droin=droud.

Stupid &^#@)(*! keyboard!

260 posted on 05/16/2002 7:22:23 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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