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Libertarians Advocate Drug Legalization: Recipe For Escalating Societal Decay
GOPUSA.COM ^ | May.16,2002 | Carol Devine-Molin

Posted on 05/16/2002 11:22:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man
But I'm not tired of paying to lock up murderers drug growers, drug dealers, drug purchasers and drug abusers. That I'm willing to pay for.

Then you are willing to pay my share for the failed war on drugs out of your personal checkbook....that is good.

Can you also rectify the damage to the personal liberties of non drug users as a result of this failed war?

Regards

J.R.

101 posted on 05/16/2002 12:48:29 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: Reagan Man
Just pump more money into the W.O.D. Just throw more money at the problem, that'll solve it. Hey, waitaminute, that sounds like another certain party...
102 posted on 05/16/2002 12:48:56 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: Cable225
Narcotics cannot be discussed in the same light as alcohol because the effects of addiction are not the same.

You're right....alcoholism is much worse.

103 posted on 05/16/2002 12:50:15 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: Reagan Man
...social Conservatives in particular are not purists regarding government intervention, especially when they perceive a threat to the greater good of the citizenry.

Yeah, social conservatives have never given a rat's ass about the Constitution.

104 posted on 05/16/2002 12:50:40 PM PDT by The Green Goblin
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To: conserv13
There are many ways to "legalize". If You take the money out of drugs, no one is going to stand on the street selling them. No one has all the answers, but the war on drugs doesn't work.
105 posted on 05/16/2002 12:51:01 PM PDT by Louburger
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To: Aedammair
Libertarianism holds freedom of choice above all other values, and is loathe to penalize except in the most flagrant, unavoidable cases. Libertarianism may have some thing to offer the country, but only when part of the eclectic mix already arrived at by the electorate. They will never gain but a slight amount of steam, because more people than not perceive the results of pure libertarianism as an economic, defense of state, socially devolving abyss.

Where to begin? We are libertarians, not libertines. We believe in liberty, not license. The politicians who claim to represent your values (family, hard work, sacrifice) are actually betraying them by stealing from you and everyone else. They say they have to steal your money so they can promote your values. No!!! The ends don't justify the means. You are the best spokesperson for your values. You don't need smooth-talking thieves to bribe people into accepting your values. Your values can thrive on their own.

106 posted on 05/16/2002 12:52:30 PM PDT by seanc623
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To: tacticalogic
True, provided you consider society and government to be freely interchangeable.

I think to a degree they are interchangable, at least when you apply politics to them both. Politics runs throughout our society and since government is an offshoot of civilized society, the two can be viewed as one in many many aspects. The alternative to an orderly, law abiding society and a freely elected government, would be chaos and anarchy. The latter I do not support, in any shape, manner or form.

107 posted on 05/16/2002 12:52:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
"For me, it's just a question of money. I'm tired of paying to lock [up] drug users and sellers up murderers and killers, and I'm tired of using government inefficiency to solve this problem."

The hundreds of thousands in jail for selling weed are murderers and killers? Get real...

108 posted on 05/16/2002 12:53:49 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: seanc623
Yes!!!!!!!
109 posted on 05/16/2002 12:53:52 PM PDT by Louburger
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To: seanc623
Where to begin? We are libertarians, not libertines. We believe in liberty, not license. The politicians who claim to represent your values (family, hard work, sacrifice) are actually betraying them by stealing from you and everyone else. They say they have to steal your money so they can promote your values. No!!! The ends don't justify the means. You are the best spokesperson for your values. You don't need smooth-talking thieves to bribe people into accepting your values. Your values can thrive on their own

Bears repeating!

110 posted on 05/16/2002 12:55:28 PM PDT by AUgrad
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To: Reagan Man
And of course, as a compassionate society, we would offer rehabilitation for those substance users who seek help in kicking their drug habits, a minor price to pay in the scheme of things.

He was going along pretty well til he told this fib.

111 posted on 05/16/2002 12:55:59 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
A review of the "Dutch Model" demonstrates that drug activity, particularly marijuana usage, has increased with the softening of drug laws and drug policy in the Netherlands.

This bald faced lie stands out as well.

112 posted on 05/16/2002 12:57:41 PM PDT by AUgrad
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To: Impeach98
"I would suggest that the "war on drugs" has been a huge failure and a giant waste of money....."

And has resulted in a massive loss of our constitutional civil rights.

113 posted on 05/16/2002 12:59:27 PM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Reagan Man
But beyond the question of drug legalization, we as a society must make it a priority to inculcate values in our youth, and help them build character,

One good way to do that would be to continue to lie to them like the author does in this piece. It always helps to build character and inculcate values in young people when they find out that the people they are learning from are liars.

"Reefer Madness" did wonders for the credibility of the authorities.

114 posted on 05/16/2002 1:00:34 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Reagan Man
Or, in other words, we know what's best for you.
115 posted on 05/16/2002 1:01:19 PM PDT by cruiserman
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To: ThomasJefferson
Actually, the amount of money freed up after the war on drugs is gone would be staggering. Some lawyers may even have to get more meaningful jobs, possably litigating cases for or agianst the IRS.
116 posted on 05/16/2002 1:01:21 PM PDT by Louburger
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To: Frances_Marion
The hundreds of thousands in jail for selling weed are murderers and killers? Get real...

You get real!

Put your glasses on and read it again. That's not what I said. No need to put words in my mouth to make some ridiculous point, that isn't true.

For me, it's just a question of money. I'm tired of paying to lock [up] drug users and sellers up murderers and killers, and I'm tired of using government inefficiency to solve this problem.

117 posted on 05/16/2002 1:02:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Windsong
Did you intend to engage in conversation or just make your comment and leave? If your intent was to make the comment and leave with no further conversation why did you even bother making your comment in the first place?
118 posted on 05/16/2002 1:03:03 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: ThomasJefferson
"Reefer Madness" did wonders for the credibility of the authorities.

Oh, yeah, I remember that one. What a classic. It worked on so many levels.
119 posted on 05/16/2002 1:03:47 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Reagan Man
Its been argued many times here on FreeRepublic, a Constitutional Amendment isn't required.

It's been argued many times that Clowntoon is the innocent victim of a Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Both arguments are nonsense.

120 posted on 05/16/2002 1:04:25 PM PDT by steve-b
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